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Topic: | Need two RTI T2+ remotes! (Posted in Custom Installers' Lounge) This thread has 18 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Friday August 7, 2020 at 21:00 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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Seems to be the season for this, doesn't it? I've got a client with a 15 year old system with two T2+ remotes that have just died of memory loss. They rarely use their systems and they've got satellite and Blu-ray...Two of the same remotes would be the simplest solution as I still have the programming from 15 years ago. If you've got a line on any these, please drop me an email! Thank you.
Last edited by Ernie Gilman on August 8, 2020 15:48.
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Post 2 made on Saturday August 8, 2020 at 11:44 |
MNTommyBoy Senior Member |
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You would really replace ancient (by technology terms), monochrome remotes with new, slightly used monochrome remotes?
You could maybe find a couple T2-B on ebay. Didn't ID have a "convert to" function or something like that?
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OP | Post 3 made on Saturday August 8, 2020 at 15:50 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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They don't give A SINGLE DAMN about color or monochrome. This is for a two-story (i.e. two system) art gallery appended to a mansion in a pricey section of Los Angeles. They used the systems about four times during the last year that it worked right. It's used so seldom that the person who operates the system (rarely the client) always needs to rehearse running the system. They see zero value in upgrading AT ALL. (I've already proposed dragging them into, say, 2010).
I'll be looking into file conversion, so thanks for reminding me. I'm just having a hard time coming up with a search term that would find it on the RTI site.
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Post 4 made on Saturday August 8, 2020 at 17:07 |
MediaImageAV Long Time Member |
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I'll be looking into file conversion, so thanks for reminding me. I'm just having a hard time coming up with a search term that would find it on the RTI site. Device Convert to
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Post 5 made on Saturday August 8, 2020 at 19:12 |
Brad Humphrey Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | February 2004 2,598 |
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On August 8, 2020 at 15:50, Ernie Gilman said...
They don't give A SINGLE DAMN about color or monochrome. That's nice. But whether they give a damn or not is irrelevant. The world sometimes makes these decisions for you. Those remotes are so old, it will be difficult to find working units that are in any sort of good shape. And if you do, I would argue the gambling taking on such old devices is not worth it. They need to be sold new devices. Ones that can be programmed to be easy to use and last for them. As the old saying goes "People in hell want ice water". Do you think they get it?
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Post 6 made on Saturday August 8, 2020 at 19:25 |
Impaqt RC Moderator |
Joined: Posts: | October 2002 6,233 |
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On August 8, 2020 at 15:50, Ernie Gilman said...
They don't give A SINGLE DAMN about color or monochrome. This is for a two-story (i.e. two system) art gallery appended to a mansion in a pricey section of Los Angeles. They used the systems about four times during the last year that it worked right. It's used so seldom that the person who operates the system (rarely the client) always needs to rehearse running the system. They see zero value in upgrading AT ALL. (I've already proposed dragging them into, say, 2010).
I'll be looking into file conversion, so thanks for reminding me. I'm just having a hard time coming up with a search term that would find it on the RTI site. Its not about whether they care about color or monochrome. It should be about what the right thing to do is. and the right thing to do is get them into a modern remote that can be better programmed to work without "Rehearsing".
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OP | Post 7 made on Sunday August 9, 2020 at 12:52 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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On August 8, 2020 at 17:07, MediaImageAV said...
Device Convert to Those don't find it, but thanks for trying. Sometimes googling is just plain sensible, sometimes figuring out what to search for is difficult. IIRC, it's a couple of paragraphs somewhere in a lot of text. Each search result for those two suggestions is info on an individual product. Worse, "convert to" gives results for "converter."
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Post 8 made on Sunday August 9, 2020 at 13:30 |
MNTommyBoy Senior Member |
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On August 9, 2020 at 12:52, Ernie Gilman said...
Those don't find it, but thanks for trying. Sometimes googling is just plain sensible, sometimes figuring out what to search for is difficult.
IIRC, it's a couple of paragraphs somewhere in a lot of text. Each search result for those two suggestions is info on an individual product. Worse, "convert to" gives results for "converter." Dude, it's not on the website. Open the softare, click on Device (top left next to File), slide down and click on Convert To. And for the love of God, you're a pro, present them the solution the need, not what they think they want. Maybe they have a time machine in that museum...
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Post 9 made on Sunday August 9, 2020 at 15:20 |
Malcolm013 Long Time Member |
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On August 9, 2020 at 13:30, MNTommyBoy said...
Dude, it's not on the website. Open the softare, click on Device (top left next to File), slide down and click on Convert To.
And for the love of God, you're a pro, present them the solution the need, not what they think they want. Maybe they have a time machine in that museum... That was my thought initially...
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OP | Post 10 made on Sunday August 9, 2020 at 21:28 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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I see this has previously been asked. See [Link: remotecentral.com]. From that, here's this from Chris Pauly at RTI: There is no table which currently shows what a device can be converted into. This was 2014. HEY! You're right! It's not on the website! Chris continues: However, Integration Designer can show you the information that you are looking for. First, open a System file in ID and select the legacy remote. Then go to the Device Menu and go to the “Convert Device” option. Hovering over “Convert to” will bring up a menu of the devices that your selected remote can be converted into. The T2+ file can be converted to either an RK2 or a T2-B. So this is not a path ahead. This is really too bad because there are two systems, with some fancy switching accomplished on two RP6s. Oh, well. And TommyBoy, I don't mean to bag on you, but look at the instructions Chris gave me and compare them with yours. You left out several important details. Thanks for trying, though.
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Post 11 made on Monday August 10, 2020 at 14:04 |
Hasbeen Loyal Member |
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I once had a car with bad shocks, the steering was jacked up, the brakes were shot, the floor boards were rusted out, and it needed an engine. My mechanic searched the globe to find an engine for my rust bucket that wouldn't cost too much, I didn't really drive it that much. Then he discounted his hourly rate so dramatically that I don't know how he made any money to install it.
I guess he had to do a ton of research because the engine was so old, to make sure he could even program the vehicle's computer. He literally had to buy an old computer just so the software was compatible. Then he scoured the internet for parts because my car was such a rare commodity.
No he didn't. That's not what he did at all. He told me to go buy a new car because he wasn't going to put lipstick on a pig.
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Post 12 made on Tuesday August 11, 2020 at 09:24 |
drewski300 Super Member |
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Come on now....we have all tried to make something that we were sure wouldn't last long for a particular client. Little easy to sit back a lob darts...
I for one like this edgy Ernie!
No I do not have any old remotes laying around. Who would want to hang onto that s#$t! ;)
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Post 13 made on Tuesday August 11, 2020 at 10:38 |
wildulmer Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2007 272 |
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I may have some. I will look around.
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Post 14 made on Tuesday August 11, 2020 at 12:04 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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On August 9, 2020 at 13:30, MNTommyBoy said...
And for the love of God, you're a pro Now that's up for debate
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OP | Post 15 made on Tuesday August 11, 2020 at 12:31 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
Joined: Posts: | December 2001 30,104 |
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On August 10, 2020 at 14:04, Hasbeen said...
I once had a car with bad shocks, the steering was jacked up, the brakes were shot, the floor boards were rusted out, and it needed an engine. No parallel. This system still looks great, and six months ago it performed perfectly... that one time they used it. The closest you might come would be to say that you don't get the expected response when pushing on the pedals. My mechanic searched the globe to find an engine for my rust bucket that wouldn't cost too much, I didn't really drive it that much. Nope, that doesn't apply, either. You guys are overly complimenting yourselves if you think me asking here, and looking on ebay for a whole ten minutes, is "searched the globe." At this point I'm up to about thirty minutes! And I'm looking to see if anyone has that whole car in good condition somewhere, not just an engine. Then he discounted his hourly rate so dramatically that I don't know how he made any money to install it. No way. The invoice for initial evaluation has already gone out, because while this is in a home, it's being paid for by an investment and real estate company. I guess he had to do a ton of research because the engine was so old, to make sure he could even program the vehicle's computer. He literally had to buy an old computer just so the software was compatible. Well, no. Wait, no, I mean, no, not at all. Then he scoured the internet for parts because my car was such a rare commodity. No, that didn't happen, either. It was pretty clear these are not sitting around waiting to be snapped up! No he didn't. That's not what he did at all. He told me to go buy a new car because he wasn't going to put lipstick on a pig. I think the closest parallel you could torture out of these circumstances would be to say "He told me to go buy a new car because he wasn't going to spend even a minute checking his network (you guys are a network of sources, after all) to see if someone else has one of these pigs, fresh, that's been sitting in the dark doing nothing." If you want to stick with the lipstick on a pig thing, I'm throwing out the old pig and looking for a new one. "Oh, yeah, when he told me to buy a new car, he didn't realize that the buttons on the dash of the old car were programmed to control a gate and garage door with switch interlocks to make driving into the garage look cool, with the door closing inches after the car is in position inside the garage." Now, that part is in the downstairs system. There's the expected coordination of a screen and projector using a macro that continues to put away the screen, waiting to put up the projector until it has gone through a cooling period after the system has either been turned off or has been switched to a non-video input. And in the upstairs system there's a TV with a speaker bar for video sources, and overhead speakers that run off of an amp's Zone 2 on non-video sources. Actually the hardest part of installing any other remote will be working out the commands and timing of the macros.
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