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PROFESSIONAL versus EXPERT
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OP | Post 16 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 07:52
GregoriusM
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Interesting commentaries!

Yes, pilgram. If you are an expert, you know longer are merely a pert.

Similarly, if you are a professional, you can't go to a confessional, unless you are conning people out of money, merchandise, etc. in your professional life, in which case you SHOULD go to a confessional and let them know about your expertise in being a con at your profession.

I have no idea what I just said.


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Where have I been? Well, my health limits me sometimes, and sometime for long periods.

However, here I am.......... "Jack of all trades and master of none!"

"Professional in many areas with no expertise?"

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You guys DO get what I mean by the difference between someone who works in a profession and someone who REALLY HAS the expertise to WORK in that profession, eh?

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Greg
When ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.
Post 17 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 10:10
Larry Fine
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On 01/09/05 07:52 ET, GregoriusM said...
You guys DO get what I mean by the difference
between someone who works in a profession and
someone who REALLY HAS the expertise to WORK in
that profession, eh?

I do, and I hope I'm in the latter group.
Post 18 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 10:36
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As only an "Advanced Memeber" but wishing I had "Super Active Member" status, I can say this. I had this conversation just yesterday with a customer. I can offer professional installation on that brand I dont typically sell but can't offer expertise with that model as I am not that familiar. Install 30 of the same unit and become an expert with that model.
Diplomacy is the art of saying hire a pro without actually saying hire a pro
Post 19 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 13:42
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A good professional knows what to do and how things work, but uses experts to actually do the labour. (at least in our business)
Post 20 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 21:53
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Greg,

I'm surprised I didn't see something about an MX-850 in here. ;) haha

Hey! When do I get my "Home Theater Master Expert" tag? Hell, I worked for them! haha



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Post 21 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 22:13
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It appears that you would have to exceed 7,000 posts to reach the title of "Home Theater Master Expert"
Post 22 made on Sunday January 9, 2005 at 23:30
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I just want to graduate out of "Active Member".........

Jason
Post 23 made on Monday January 10, 2005 at 01:36
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On 01/09/05 22:13 ET, PennyG said...
It appears that you would have to exceed 7,000
posts to reach the title of "Home Theater Master
Expert"

Only Greg has that title, I'm over 7,000.:)
Post 24 made on Monday January 10, 2005 at 23:24
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I guess I overshot :-)

Daniel can change anyone's title, so single minded people like Greg get personal titles based on what they know :-)
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Post 25 made on Tuesday January 11, 2005 at 01:22
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On 01/08/05 12:34 ET, Audible Solutionns said...

Being a professional idicates only how one earns
a living. Expertise connotates actual knowledge.
Sometimes the two go together and sometimes they
do not. If I do not know how to use a spectrum
analyzer to EQ a room but understand the basics
of room accustics and speaker placement am I an
expert? If I master the intricacies of IR control
systems but cannot program a serial device am
I an expert? If I am unable to wire a system
neatly but can do anything else am I an expert?
If all I can do is wire a system ( rack ) am
I an expert?

That's a very good point. I think that anyone that has been involved in this industry, or technology for any length of time appreciates that there really is no such state as "expert". The field is too vast, too diverse, and crosses over into too many related fields such as music production, acoustical design, product development, etc. There is really no shortage of knowledge to be acquired, and the reservoir of this available knowledge is perpetually being topped up, so you can never achieve a state of expert, but only accumulate varying degrees of knowledge. I think that what differentiates certain professionals is their varying degree of knowledge, but more importantly, their ability to use their acquired degree of knowledge and experience to solve problems.
Post 26 made on Tuesday January 11, 2005 at 02:09
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The more we learn, the more we realize how little we know.
Post 27 made on Tuesday January 11, 2005 at 02:13
Tom Ciaramitaro
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I believe a professional "holds himself out" to do what he does for a living.

An expert does the work needed and handles all the details, to the point that another person following up his work has nothing further to do.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
OP | Post 28 made on Tuesday January 11, 2005 at 11:40
GregoriusM
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On 01/11/05 01:22 ET, teknobeam1 said...
That's a very good point. I think that anyone
that has been involved in this industry, or technology
for any length of time appreciates that there
really is no such state as "expert". The field
is too vast, too diverse, and crosses over into
too many related fields such as music production,
acoustical design, product development, etc. There
is really no shortage of knowledge to be acquired,
and the reservoir of this available knowledge
is perpetually being topped up, so you can never
achieve a state of expert, but only accumulate
varying degrees of knowledge. I think that what
differentiates certain professionals is their
varying degree of knowledge, but more importantly,
their ability to use their acquired degree of
knowledge and experience to solve problems.

Very well said, IMHO.
When ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.
Post 29 made on Tuesday January 11, 2005 at 19:43
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I'm an expert at screwing up at the very worst moments.

Yet I always have a very professional excuse for such events.....lol
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