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CES 2020 / TVs
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Post 1 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 14:27
crosen
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I’m a bit underwhelmed this year. Haven’t seen anything that scratches an itch or excites me about new opportunities.

TVs have gone off the rails. I don’t have any customers asking for better image quality. They just want bullet proof operation. Yet, pretty much all we are seeing is manufacturers obsessed with squeezing a bit more clarity and contrast out of their lineup. My customers are all human. Their retinas don’t care about 8K for typical TV viewing.

Anyone see anything from the show that they’re excited about?
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Post 2 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 15:11
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Once you really look at a Sony OLED. There just isn't really anything else.
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Post 3 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 19:20
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Really have to agree ^^^^^
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OP | Post 4 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 19:42
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Since Sony is using the panels from LG, I guess the secret sauce is in the image processing. What are they doing over LG that makes the difference?
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 5 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 19:44
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle
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What's the scoop on that roll up TV from LG? It was "coming soon" at 2019 CES. Looks like quite a gimmick beyond 3D and curved displays.

[Link: lg.com]
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Post 6 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 22:27
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Based on the pictures that LG was showing, I couldn’t judge the ultimate picture quality. There is a big box associated with the display. In general I don’t think that this will be appreciated for ceiling mounts, but as a popup it’s great. I wasn’t entirely pleased when side light was reflected from the screen because the screen surface was “lumpy”, but this was visible only when the screen was dark.

I also thought that the SONY’s were best, but not by as much as in previous years. Everyone is now using some sort of enhanced processor.

Backlit SAMSUNG’s continue to annoy me because the lighting is not uniform. But, customers don’t seem to notice.

Last edited by buzz on January 11, 2020 22:34.
Post 7 made on Saturday January 11, 2020 at 22:30
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8K is for forum geeks and won't make it into mainstream for at least a couple of years... if at all.
Now for commercial signage, it's a different story.

The biggest stories for me have been the leaked video of new AVR's that was then taken down (clearly defying an NDA). If Sony or XBox had given a definitive date for their new gen console releases it would have changed CES a whole lot, but ultimately it does make me wonder what ISE / High End in Munich have to offer.
This industry is not getting cheaper and cheaper, we're simply convincing ourselves that we have to push the cheapest option to customers.
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Post 8 made on Sunday January 12, 2020 at 10:36
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What about the new Samsung "frameless" TV I thought I read about. Does it have some wow factor?
Post 9 made on Sunday January 12, 2020 at 14:49
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I was so unexcited abut the TV's that I forgot to ask about eARC.
Post 10 made on Monday January 13, 2020 at 09:49
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No love for the LG GX series?

Uniform .75" thickness on a premium OLED? it is what the wall paper should have been years ago.
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Post 11 made on Monday January 13, 2020 at 11:29
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My concern is the cheap stuff has gotten pretty good.
If the price gap is too large, will be a harder sell.
Going to see a lot more, got discrete codes for xyz?
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Post 12 made on Monday January 13, 2020 at 14:38
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On January 11, 2020 at 22:30, dunnersfella said...
The biggest stories for me have been the leaked video of new AVR's that was then taken down (clearly defying an NDA).

What brands, and what was different, in concept?
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 13 made on Tuesday January 14, 2020 at 02:14
dunnersfella
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Starts with 'Y' and has new casework + HDMI 2.1
However, it's pretty much restricted to leaked pics and top-line specs.
This industry is not getting cheaper and cheaper, we're simply convincing ourselves that we have to push the cheapest option to customers.
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Post 14 made on Tuesday January 14, 2020 at 07:44
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On January 13, 2020 at 09:49, jrainey said...
No love for the LG GX series?

Uniform .75" thickness on a premium OLED? it is what the wall paper should have been years ago.

This looks pretty cool. Is there an outboard box for connections I'm assuming?
Post 15 made on Tuesday January 14, 2020 at 08:20
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On January 14, 2020 at 07:44, andrewinboulder said...
This looks pretty cool. Is there an outboard box for connections I'm assuming?

That is a negative....all on-board......75" thick and wall mountable only with included mount. It will take some planning to get the input area and power inputs right.

Jack Rainey - Full disclosure...reformed integrator, now mid-Atlantic manufacturers rep for: Integra, Paradigm, Anthem, Parasound, Atlona, LG TV's and Metra Home Theater...among others
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