Hi All,

I just bought myself a Pioneer PDF-1009 301 CD changer and a Philips ProntoProNG universal remote. I've hooked ther player up to my TEAC AG-10D receiver, and using the remote ( running a SuperNudeList generated config ) I am now able to pick any CD by artist using the remote. I'm well chuffed with this setup, apart from the fact that the changer is already full , and I've got another 100 CDs to store .

Ideally I'd just buy another PDF-1009, and plug that into my receiver aswell. I can't do this AFAIK since both players would respond to the same IR commands, which is useless. Unfortuntely this changer doesn't allow me to daisy chain another one, so that is not an option either. Is there anything else I can do apart from buying a different brand of player ?

thanks,
Edwin.

I think some people have used the IR extenders to do this. I don't have one, but I believe you can set addresses to certain emitters through the extender so that only the device that you want to control will get the signal. I'm sure someone more knowledgable will chime in soon.

Mark

Sure, just using a xantech or other gate like system with an ir system to accept codes for one cd player or other piece and differentiate those codes to another like piece of equipment.

The gate has one input and two outputs on the SR21 Xantech piece used in cooperation with an Ir system allowing you to proceed the IR command with a signal to designate the output of the relay...

i.e. signal A + cd command of play goes to cd player a
signal B + cd command of play goes to cd player b

This way you can have two of the exact cd players and route the commands to each one individually.

Use Hoods over each cd player ir sensor and then you shouldn't have a problem with bleeding betwen the like codes to the other player.

Xantech Gatekeeper IR

Mike

See, told ya they would. They are why I come to this site. These guys know everything about A/V, and lots about other things....:-)

Mark

If you think you might stop at two CD players, a Xantech CC12 will work for you. I use it, and its bigger brother the CC62, for this and other switching purposes. I suggest this because if you need just two CD players, the CC12 is less expensive than the Xantech RT8 or gatekeeper.

The CC12 is one double-pole double-throw relay. You feed a control signal to the CC12, and a SEPARATE IR signal to the common terminals of the relay. The IR signal then gets switched to one or the other switched contacts of the relay, and an LED for one machine is hooked to one set of outputs, the other to the other.

The LED emitter itself must be covered so that its IR light does not reach the other machine.

By the way, aside from the theoretical and classy fact that it would be cool to switch one CD player, and one only, at a time, what would be the problem with allowing this to happen? If you have to use two amp inputs because you cannot daisy chain the model you have, what would be the problem with both of them playing, aside from the coolness factor and the motor wear?

If your not to attached to the Pronto, you could look over to the Universal camp.

Carl, what's changing remotes gonna do for him?

Mark

MRF250's have addressable IR outs. So you can tell one port just to talk to player one, and another just to talk to player 2.

The IR extenders for the pronto have this feature as well I believe.

The Prontos do have adressable IR outs. Its just a matter of if they work or not.

I can't say whether they work or not. I don't use the RF portion of my remote. I do love my remote though.

Thanks for the info. I guess with "adressable IR" you mean using an RF extender. Both this , and using an IR relay ( like the CC12 ) seem like rather expensive solutions. The CC12 ships for ~ US$ 150, and the Pronto RF extender is around the same. The RF extender does give me the added benefit of being able to hide the two CD changers.

I could indeed just control both players, switch to the correct input on the receiver and leave both players running, definetely the cheapest solution, not very elegant though. Maybe I'll just buy a different brand of changer.

thanks for the help.
Edwin.

I could be wrong, but most Pioneer Mega-changers had a "main-secondary" or "master-slave" switch on the back that allowed you to link two units and contol them with one remote. There was also a data and video link so that the keyboard would work bot units, and the OSD would show discs loaded in both as well. I know the Elite DVD changers had this.

I just saw that the PDF1007 IS capable of daisy chaining. Left a quick note on Pioneer support to see if I can hook up a 1009 as a slave to a 1007 . I think it should be OK, and am willing to take the risk and fallback to the options given in this thread if things don't work out.

I found the 1007 manual here [Link: service.pioneer-eur.com] . Basically it uses the IR terminal to link through to the slave ( and it assigns any disk >300 to the slave) . So assuming these two devices use the same IR codes, I will be able to hook the 1009 to the 1007 . Failing that , i.e. the IR codes are different, then my remote will solve the problem .

cheers,
Edwin.