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who is still selling tivos
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Post 1 made on Wednesday August 7, 2019 at 20:30
brucewayne
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I was selling tivo for about 3 years with out a problem

now cablevision/ atice is out of cable cards. when clients call for a new installation with a tivo and they are told its not supported and they have to go altice one.

I have had 2 tivos go bad this week. one I had to drive 30 mins north to get there last cable card.

And the second had one main box and 2 minis. the mains hard drive went bad and the client doesnt have tv at all.

it used to be a great solution put the mini behind a tv. No dealing with ir kits or hdmi extenders. and they can have tv and netflix on one remote.

but now reconsidering selling it anymore.
brucewayne
Post 2 made on Wednesday August 7, 2019 at 21:04
Don Heany
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Comcast is pushing Roku for the Xfinity Streaming App, but our rural CATV company is still using TiVo as their Set top. They are also diving in with black labeled Eero. The app has their logo on it too.

That said, I have a lifer subscriber who got a Bolt last year and we just did a couple mini vox for him. Liked the interface a lot.

Have a couple people that are now swearing YouTubeTV...
Post 3 made on Wednesday August 7, 2019 at 21:10
adamav
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Last edited by adamav on August 7, 2019 22:38.
Post 4 made on Wednesday August 7, 2019 at 21:27
goldenzrule
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On August 7, 2019 at 21:10, adamav said...
In your neck of the woods, it's those guys http://proaudioinc.com

What does Pro Audio have to do with cable card issues?
Post 5 made on Wednesday August 7, 2019 at 22:37
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On August 7, 2019 at 21:27, goldenzrule said...
What does Pro Audio have to do with cable card issues?

ooops , you're correct , I did not fully read OP's post and misunderstood his question / title of the post .....
Post 6 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 10:20
Dawn Gordon Luks
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The FCC is your friend. File a complaint with them and watch how quick cable cards will suddenly become available at your cable company.
Post 7 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 10:53
Brad Humphrey
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On August 8, 2019 at 10:20, Dawn Gordon Luks said...
The FCC is your friend. File a complaint with them and watch how quick cable cards will suddenly become available at your cable company.

Have you tried it? The few times I did made no difference and it went no where.
And the cable company is absolutely doing it on purpose. And they know they can get away with it.

Comcast is the provider in our area. Each of the local branches has a crate of cable cards they keep. Every f^n one of them is defective in some way. They know it! The crate is strictly there to deter anyone from trying to activate their own box. After hours & hours of trying to get a system to work with their defective cards, most people give up and rent the cable company's box. Especially after weeks of trying and getting them to swap cards a few times (which they already know won't work either).

The last time I did a new TiVo CATV install, it took 2 months of fighting with Comcast before we finally got a working card. Never again.
FCC has been paid off to not care and there is nothing we can do about it. So I don't sell TiVo systems anymore. Not because they are not awesome but because it is near impossible to get a working system for my customers.
Post 8 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 11:46
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On August 8, 2019 at 10:53, Brad Humphrey said...
Have you tried it? The few times I did made no difference and it went no where.
And the cable company is absolutely doing it on purpose. And they know they can get away with it.

Comcast is the provider in our area. Each of the local branches has a crate of cable cards they keep. Every f^n one of them is defective in some way. They know it! The crate is strictly there to deter anyone from trying to activate their own box. After hours & hours of trying to get a system to work with their defective cards, most people give up and rent the cable company's box. Especially after weeks of trying and getting them to swap cards a few times (which they already know won't work either).

The last time I did a new TiVo CATV install, it took 2 months of fighting with Comcast before we finally got a working card. Never again.
FCC has been paid off to not care and there is nothing we can do about it. So I don't sell TiVo systems anymore. Not because they are not awesome but because it is near impossible to get a working system for my customers.

Get a normal Comcast dvr open it up and take the cable card out. Then call and get it paired to the Tivo. Return Comcast box with crappy card.
I have no idea if that works but it might be worth trying
Post 9 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 11:52
Brad Humphrey
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On August 8, 2019 at 11:46, ichbinbose said...
Get a normal Comcast dvr open it up and take the cable card out. Then call and get it paired to the Tivo. Return Comcast box with crappy card.
I have no idea if that works but it might be worth trying

You know I have thought about that many times. But cable boxes don't require the M-Card that the TiVo unit does. The cable boxes I took the cable card out to check, were all S-cards. At least around here. (single-stream vs. multi-stream).
Post 10 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 11:59
ichbinbose
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On August 8, 2019 at 11:52, Brad Humphrey said...
You know I have thought about that many times. But cable boxes don't require the M-Card that the TiVo unit does. The cable boxes I took the cable card out to check, were all S-cards. At least around here. (single-stream vs. multi-stream).

That’s surprising since the xfinity box acts as a server to the mini cable boxes
Post 11 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 13:41
Rob Grabon
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I fear Tivo is nearing it's end as a hardware platform. Between the BS with the cablecards, X1 systems and cord cutting, they're becoming as wanted as a disc player.
Technology is cheap, Time is expensive.
Post 12 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 15:19
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On August 8, 2019 at 13:41, Rob Grabon said...
I fear Tivo is nearing it's end as a hardware platform. Between the BS with the cablecards, X1 systems and cord cutting, they're becoming as wanted as a disc player.

+1

Don’t know how they made it up to now.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 13 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 19:42
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On August 8, 2019 at 15:19, tomciara said...
+1

Don’t know how they made it up to now.

They are bleeding, but so many companies do that on a regular basis is crazy.

The fact that they won some handsome settlements from Dish, DTV, and AT&T are what kept them alive all this time.

The problem I see is they now have a lot more competition, and raising prices may well be the thing that kills them, or at least gets the company bought out for the patents.

Other companies such as Amazon, etc, etc, are going to really dilute their market share. I think that Amazon alone will build the headstone..
Post 14 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 20:33
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they are great with comcrap! the only thing that makes comcrap good!

Last edited by radiorhea on August 9, 2019 14:59.
Drinking upstream from the herd since 1960
Post 15 made on Thursday August 8, 2019 at 21:58
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I have a TIVO sitting under my TV right now.  I bought it when we cut the cord.  We might use it twice a year, and that's being generous.
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