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Snap Selling Cat7a
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Post 1 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 10:20
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Just logged into their site and noticed this for the first time. I thought there were no approved U.S. standards for Cat7 / Cat7a, so it surprises me that Snap would carry it.

I also see that Snap has male RJ45 connectors that fit their Cat7a cable, which is significant because I’ve looked into male terminations for Cat7 before and could not find anything in the U.S.

Anyway, maybe a good thing to run in a video bundle?
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Post 2 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 10:58
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Judging by the size of the backs of some CAT6E keystones I saw about a year ago in, of all things, a car dealership's new sales office, it looks like it might be time to introduce a new, larger standard for the RJ45 connector's business end. They looked like they were about 3/4" square!

This wire would not be a good thing to run in a bundle. Two such cables, bundled together, would be more than twice as stiff as one of them. It would be difficult to bend one of them inside a normal depth junction box. It would be really difficult to bend two of them. It would be near impossible to run more than one through a 3/4" conduit!

The first article I find about this ([Link: fiberopticshare.com]) mentions frequency and shows pre-made cables, but doesn't mention diameter or even the wire gauge. There's no mention of how difficult it will be to terminate keystones for this wire. This is as bad as all those consumer ads that show all sorts of electronic devices with nary a single wire in sight.
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OP | Post 3 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 11:06
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GG45 is the large connector used with Cat7

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Post 4 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 11:08
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I would just run fiber for video and Cat6 for control
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OP | Post 5 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 11:27
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Sort of makes you wonder where Cat7a fits in.
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Post 6 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 12:52
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On July 21, 2019 at 11:27, crosen said...
Sort of makes you wonder where Cat7a fits in.

It makes sense in commercial in some cases. Think about it, you can put in hundreds of drops and still easily plug in every existing desktop. That’s not even remotely feasible or practical using fiber.
I personally don’t see a practical application in residential currently.
How people are even installing anything that can support 10 gig connections in homes? More importantly what would it actually accomplish.
The routers i install support 10 gig but not a single other device does. So that fiber link is used to link gigabit switches.
Post 7 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 17:03
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Cat7a ???
That was so last year.
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Post 8 made on Sunday July 21, 2019 at 19:58
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Someone should create a Cat5E to Cat7 converter. If we can get HDMI from "anywire" [Link: altinex.com] we should be able to get 10GBit from Cat5E.
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Post 9 made on Monday July 22, 2019 at 11:22
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Am I missing something? We've been running CAT7 for a couple years. Liberty and Crestron both have all the required connectors. CAT7a is physically the same but operates up to 1GHz.
OP | Post 10 made on Monday July 22, 2019 at 11:38
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On July 22, 2019 at 11:22, mark65 said...
Am I missing something? We've been running CAT7 for a couple years. Liberty and Crestron both have all the required connectors. CAT7a is physically the same but operates up to 1GHz.

Well, there is no agreed standard for it in the U.S. and the case for using it vs. cat6a or fiber are questionable.

What application(s) are you running it for?
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Post 11 made on Monday July 22, 2019 at 12:19
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Post 12 made on Tuesday July 23, 2019 at 07:43
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Have only come across this company listing it as a requirement to date- [Link: loxone.com]
Post 13 made on Tuesday July 23, 2019 at 08:41
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On July 23, 2019 at 07:43, Don Heany said...
Have only come across this company listing it as a requirement to date- [Link: loxone.com]

Thats because they are a UK based company and Cat7 is an excepted standard in Europe.
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