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Need IR codes, if they exist, for the Spectrum 210 cable box.
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Post 1 made on Monday June 17, 2019 at 20:34
Ernie Gilman
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Do you know if URC's Cable Codeset 231 works on the Spectrum 210, which only comes with an RF remote?

If not, do you know of a codeset that does work on it?

Thanks for any help.
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Post 2 made on Monday June 17, 2019 at 21:13
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I did a quick search for you and found this...

[Link: community.logitech.com]

It would seem that the customer service at Harmony step up to the plate and provided IR codes, or could it be they are using IP? The posting doesn't mention either way.

But if I were you, check out an Harmony remote and see if it works. If it does, then learn the IR codes from it... that is if it's IR instead of IP.

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OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 01:26
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The Harmony document says there's Dual IR frequency RF4CE remote control support. Haven't had a moment yet to look that up.
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Post 4 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 01:48
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Last time I worked with this box, it responded to the just about any of the TWC codes. Scientific Atlanta, AND Motorola. IR worked without any special setup.

BUT, the boxes are a complete POS. Audio out of sync. Constant reboots needed. DVR recordings not happening. Two different customers had them replaced with older boxes that were actually reliable.
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Post 5 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 06:10
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In a rush? I have acquired one of the 210 remotes,but do not have time till end of week to do anything with it. I did try it on an older Spectrum DVR and many functions do not respond.
Post 6 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 09:43
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On June 17, 2019 at 20:34, Ernie Gilman said...
Do you know if URC's Cable Codeset 231 works on the Spectrum 210, which only comes with an RF remote?

If not, do you know of a codeset that does work on it?

Thanks for any help.

It's not only RF- the old Time-Warner remotes work, too. You can go into the menu to set it up, pair remotes (their new one) and control equipment. Out of the box, it's set up to use IR.

Spectrum isn't stupid enough to use new remotes and boxes that don't work with the old equipment.

I have installed a lot of these new boxes and the majority are using the Spectrum remote, but at least one is using the old remote I programmed years ago and it works flawlessly. I do like the RF capability, though- I didn't want to install a box in a new kitchen and was able to put it on a shelf in the basement, with an HDMI cable going to the TV on the counter. So far, it works great, as long as Spectrum doesn't update the box and shut it off- just another day in the neighborhood when they don't allow us to have discrete power commands.
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Post 7 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 09:55
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I must disagree. I tried it on my DVR at home and some key buttons do not work with previous Brighthouse and still current Spectrum DVR.
Maybe in your area older boxes may have recieved an update of some sort. The 210 box has not been released here yet.
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 13:35
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On June 18, 2019 at 01:26, Ernie Gilman said...
The Harmony document says there's Dual IR frequency RF4CE remote control support. Haven't had a moment yet to look that up.

From Electronic Design, August 2010:
The latest remote-control technology, dubbed “Radio Frequency for Consumer Electronics” or better known as RF4CE, will be coming soon to a store near you. Courtesy of ZigBee, it’s now undergoing certification tests.

Nine years later and it may have come to the store, but it's not a household word yet!
The RF4CE remote control isn’t the typical infrared device found in the home. Instead, it’s an RF-based product designed to conform to ZigBee specifications as part of a wireless network. The ZigBee wireless network managing the RF4CE device is designated to be active on three ZigBee predefined channels—15, 20, and 25—from the ZigBee spectrum extending from channel 11 to channel 26.

...and I'm guessing from this that my search for IR codes to use with a URC remote won't get any help from this technology.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 16:03
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On June 18, 2019 at 13:35, Ernie Gilman said...
From Electronic Design, August 2010:
Nine years later and it may have come to the store, but it's not a household word yet!

...and I'm guessing from this that my search for IR codes to use with a URC remote won't get any help from this technology.

Have you not attempted to use the 210, in any way?

Get the damn box, try your old codes and if it doesn't work, learn the new codes to your URC editor & be done with it.

Didn't want to call URC, eh? I can understand that.
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OP | Post 10 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 18:00
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I did not have the cable box as it's at my customer's house, fifty miles away. Inconveniently, his remote was with his box.

I came here asking for ANY help getting codes. Sorry for not being blatant about this being for programming a URC remote for the client. I cannot understand how the response to a request for IR codes is somehow in any way related to pairing the RF part of the remote.

Since I'm having a hard time finding THIS BIT of information, maybe someone knows this: how do you unpair the remote so it reverts to IR control of the box?

The code set in the URC database works in some ways, but, for instance, SEARCH lowers the volume, and a few other commands likewise do the wrong thing.



Anyone know how to unpair this thing? Then I can teach the commands!

FOUND IT! Just a little bit down the page at [Link: fccid.io]. Search for "un-pair."

Last edited by Ernie Gilman on June 18, 2019 18:07.
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Post 11 made on Tuesday June 18, 2019 at 18:13
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On June 18, 2019 at 18:00, Ernie Gilman said...
I did not have the cable box as it's at my customer's house, fifty miles away. Inconveniently, his remote was with his box.

I came here asking for ANY help getting codes. Sorry for not being blatant about this being for programming a URC remote for the client. I cannot understand how the response to a request for IR codes is somehow in any way related to pairing the RF part of the remote.

Since I'm having a hard time finding THIS BIT of information, maybe someone knows this: how do you unpair the remote so it reverts to IR control of the box?

The code set in the URC database works in some ways, but, for instance, SEARCH lowers the volume, and a few other commands likewise do the wrong thing.

Anyone know how to unpair this thing? Then I can teach the commands!

FOUND IT! Just a little bit down the page at [Link: fccid.io]. Search for "un-pair."

You're the one who mentioned RF but apparently, didn't let us know the whole story.

If you had posted that you needed to unpair the remote earlier, I could have told you- I have, as I wrote earlier, worked with a lot of these new boxes.

If you ever need to change the TV, the cable box will identify the brand. You may still need to mess around with entering codes, but there are ways around that, if the local Spectrum people have a clue. Not all of them will, but if you escalate the call, you should be able to find someone who knows these better than the others.
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OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday June 19, 2019 at 02:29
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highfigh, you still are answering as though you have zero idea what I've been asking for here.

I need IR codes to control a Spectrum 210. If you had understood that, you, having experience with those boxes and remotes, would have probably told me I could get those codes by unpairing the box from the remote, giving me an IR remote with the proper codes.

So... I didn't know, it didn't occur to me, that unpairing the remote might be simple and might offer the solution.

After that realization, my least favorite thing about the internet happened: I came across instructions from the manufacturer (follow the link above) detailing how to unlink the units... and they gave instructions that did not work.

I then got lucky by exploring the entire menu system of the box, and I found the correct instructions. The online instructions told me to hold down the OK button. The box itself said hold down the OPTIONS button.

Anyway, that work is over for now and he's going to use the system for a week to see if there's anything he wants to tweak.

Thanks for the help.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday June 19, 2019 at 09:03
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On June 19, 2019 at 02:29, Ernie Gilman said...
highfigh, you still are answering as though you have zero idea what I've been asking for here.

I need IR codes to control a Spectrum 210. If you had understood that, you, having experience with those boxes and remotes, would have probably told me I could get those codes by unpairing the box from the remote, giving me an IR remote with the proper codes.

So... I didn't know, it didn't occur to me, that unpairing the remote might be simple and might offer the solution.

After that realization, my least favorite thing about the internet happened: I came across instructions from the manufacturer (follow the link above) detailing how to unlink the units... and they gave instructions that did not work.

I then got lucky by exploring the entire menu system of the box, and I found the correct instructions. The online instructions told me to hold down the OK button. The box itself said hold down the OPTIONS button.

Anyway, that work is over for now and he's going to use the system for a week to see if there's anything he wants to tweak.

Thanks for the help.

I had already written that the 210 works with the old Time Warner remotes- what does that tell you?

BTW- the remote isn't paired to the box when the package is opened. That means someone else paired it, although it could be that the box and everything else was returned after pairing- this stuff is usually refurbed or returned, according to people at Spectrum. They check it by resetting and if it lights up the next time it's plugged in, they send it out to their customers.
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OP | Post 14 made on Wednesday June 19, 2019 at 15:33
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On June 19, 2019 at 09:03, highfigh said...
I had already written that the 210 works with the old Time Warner remotes- what does that tell you?

That tells me that you don't have the codes, but you know where to get them. I don't know anyone with Time Warner, as it happens, so this is a nice theoretical approach but ultimately not helpful.

BTW- the remote isn't paired to the box when the package is opened.

Yes, I've known that for a while.
That means someone else paired it, although it could be that the box and everything else was returned after pairing- this stuff is usually refurbed or returned, according to people at Spectrum. They check it by resetting and if it lights up the next time it's plugged in, they send it out to their customers.

Yes, that sounds likely.
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Post 15 made on Thursday June 20, 2019 at 09:06
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On June 19, 2019 at 15:33, Ernie Gilman said...
That tells me that you don't have the codes, but you know where to get them. I don't know anyone with Time Warner, as it happens, so this is a nice theoretical approach but ultimately not helpful.

Yes, I've known that for a while.
Yes, that sounds likely.

OK, what about people with Cisco, Scientific Atlanta and other cable boxes that have been in place for years? Their remote codes are the same as what is used by the 210 (or 101, 201 and 110)- why would they want to deal with changing that?

You haven't accumulated any remotes over the decades when changing from one provider to another (yourself or a client) and finding more remotes than needed?

Last edited by highfigh on June 20, 2019 09:15.
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