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| Topic: | Is there an aftermarket for gently used URC equipment? This thread has 42 replies. Displaying posts 31 through 43. |
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| Post 31 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 07:50 |
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On April 25, 2019 at 20:10, Brad Humphrey said...
You guys keep saying "he". But the poster's email begins with kathy. Maybe women. However the whole email is [email protected]. Kathy... winch??? What woman would make an email for herself like that? I smell a troll and it got 2 pages from it. are you confusing the word "winch" with "wench"? Winch is probably her last name. I bet many people, including those mysterious women, use emails with their first and last name in them.
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| Post 32 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 07:57 |
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On April 24, 2019 at 23:54, Ernie Gilman said...
Fins is not afraid. He's just angry. In general. I’d give this post a like if this forum had like a button
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Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.
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| Post 33 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 08:32 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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There, I fixed it for you. On April 26, 2019 at 07:50, Duct Tape said...
are you confusing the word "winch" with "wench"?
Winch is probably her last name. I bet many people, including those mysterious women creatures, use emails with their first and last name in them.
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| Post 34 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 09:23 |
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On April 24, 2019 at 15:04, tomciara said...
CCP no help needed if everything is discrete and macros are good. Worst case, go back to main and press "Watch TV" again. No help needed unless Comcast goes down lol. Don't tell me, tell URC- they put the Help button on the remote. The problem- manufacturers STILL haven't yanked their heads out of their butts and made all power commands discrete.
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| Post 35 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 09:30 |
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On April 24, 2019 at 23:54, Ernie Gilman said...
This never occurred to me before: I bet a power outage is quite a party for Harmony remotes! Why? Ever use one? If the power goes out, the system is off. Press the Off button and it changes its state/"knowledge' of the equipment's state and anything with toggling power commands will turn on, just like they would with a URC, RTi, etc. Press the button for the activity and then press Help to correct it. The option to that is pressing the activity button again. Sounds like you haven't used one recently- you would be surprised by the new models.
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| Post 36 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 09:32 |
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On April 26, 2019 at 09:30, highfigh said...
Why? Ever use one? If the power goes out, the system is off. Press the Off button and it changes its state/"knowledge' of the equipment's state and anything with toggling power commands will turn on, just like they would with a URC, RTi, etc. Press the button for the activity and then press Help to correct it. The option to that is pressing the activity button again.
Sounds like you haven't used one recently- you would be surprised by the new models. Every Harmony model since the dawn of Harmony time had a help button. Alternatively, you can just tell people if there is a problem, press the off button on the remote and then physically check and make sure every device is turned off. It ain't rocket surgery.
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| Post 37 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 09:33 |
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This comment "There are many different kinds of consumers...just know that not all of us need such systems that require someone else to program or maintain them..." shows a complete lack of understanding of why manufacturers require someone other than the customer to program their remotes. Those requirements don't eliminate bad programming by someone who's technically a 'pro', but it does minimize the complaints going to the manufacturer's support lines. That said, URC sure has long wait time.
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| Post 38 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 09:34 |
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On April 26, 2019 at 09:32, goldenzrule said...
Every Harmony model since the dawn of Harmony time had a help button. Alternatively, you can just tell people if there is a problem, press the off button on the remote and then physically check and make sure every device is turned off. It ain't rocket surgery. Tell Ernie- he's the one that doesn't know.
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| Post 39 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 10:07 |
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This is a non sequitur: On April 26, 2019 at 09:33, highfigh said...
This comment "There are many different kinds of consumers...just know that not all of us need such systems that require someone else to program or maintain them..." That is completely true. A person with a TV, a satellite receiver, and a streaming box does not NECESSARILY require anything other than the factory remotes for those devices. Continuing: shows a complete lack of understanding of why manufacturers require someone other than the customer to program their remotes. No, it just states that some people don't need remotes that require programming beyond what's in the manual for each device. This is true. Continuing: Those requirements don't eliminate bad programming by someone who's technically a 'pro', Absolutely true but completely unrelated to the first part of the paragraph. but it does minimize the complaints going to the manufacturer's support lines. Absolutely true but unrelated to the fact that some people don't need remote controls so complicated that a skilled third party is required to program them. That said, URC sure has long wait time. True but at least introduced with "that said," indicating an acceptance of the fact that this is unrelated to the rest of the ideas.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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| Post 40 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 10:10 |
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On April 26, 2019 at 09:23, highfigh said...
Don't tell me, tell URC- they put the Help button on the remote. The problem- manufacturers STILL haven't yanked their heads out of their butts and made all power commands discrete. The only thing I am telling you is that I have never programmed a URC remote with a help button, because I use CCP. No help button, none needed.
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| Post 41 made on Friday April 26, 2019 at 13:42 |
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On April 26, 2019 at 07:50, Duct Tape said...
are you confusing the word "winch" with "wench"?
Winch is probably her last name. I bet many people, including those mysterious women, use emails with their first and last name in them. Winch... Wench... They are all pulling you somewhere :)
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| Post 42 made on Saturday April 27, 2019 at 09:27 |
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On April 26, 2019 at 10:07, Ernie Gilman said...
This is a non sequitur:
That is completely true. A person with a TV, a satellite receiver, and a streaming box does not NECESSARILY require anything other than the factory remotes for those devices.
Continuing:
No, it just states that some people don't need remotes that require programming beyond what's in the manual for each device. This is true.
Continuing:
Absolutely true but completely unrelated to the first part of the paragraph.
Absolutely true but unrelated to the fact that some people don't need remote controls so complicated that a skilled third party is required to program them.
True but at least introduced with "that said," indicating an acceptance of the fact that this is unrelated to the rest of the ideas. Why?
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| Post 43 made on Saturday April 27, 2019 at 15:38 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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Please pin down the question a little bit.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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