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Post 31 made on Sunday March 10, 2019 at 20:31
SammPX
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On March 10, 2019 at 19:25, Ryan_SD_CA said...
Thank you.

The Zoo is awesome.

Balboa Park is amazing.

While in Coronado I would check out Hotel Del Coronado.

An infinite amount of breweries here.

If the Padres are in town you guys could check out a game. Petco Park is amazing no matter where you sit.

More breweries....

Plenty to do here!!

Padres home opener is coming up and they are playing the Gigantes, may try for that weekend.

We rented bikes on Coronado last time and everyone had a blast, did the zoo too.

May head up to La Jolla and see what that's all about...
Post 32 made on Sunday March 10, 2019 at 20:52
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If you're knocking around San Diego, the best sandwich place is Poma's in Ocean Beach. A block away is Hodad's the best burger featured a couple of times on Diner's, Drive In's and Dives. Ocean Beach is kind of a funky, eclectic place to walk around and there is a lot of awesome food.

Not far away from OB is Fort Rosecrans cemetery which overlooks all of San Diego. A little farther up the road from Fort Rosecrans is the Cabrillo National Monument which is at the very point of Pt. Loma.

There are endless options for breweries, meade places, great food and lots to do.
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Post 33 made on Sunday March 10, 2019 at 20:54
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As someone who was the #2 at a company that was the 11th dealer for savant. I have a little bit of experience with them. If you want any chance of sleeping at night and you care about your clients. Steer clear of savant.

People can tell me I’m wrong. But I have had to tell a client many times xdoesn’t work anymore and the new one doesn’t with z and it’s 5k . Client but it’s only 2 years old. Oh and by the way we need to update you to x.x and that’s a $500 license plus $1000 in Programing.
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Post 34 made on Sunday March 10, 2019 at 20:58
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On March 10, 2019 at 19:06, Fins said...
We’re making progress. If we keep it up, we can have you in a MAGA hat by 2020 😉

I read Greg's post earlier and i was going to post "Fins is almost a democrat. I think 1 meeting with an anti-trickledown mathematician and hes wearing a Bernie T-Shirt".
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Post 35 made on Sunday March 10, 2019 at 21:32
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On March 10, 2019 at 19:06, Fins said...
We’re making progress. If we keep it up, we can have you in a MAGA hat by 2020 😉

Is that the hat where if you wear it your brain gets all screwed up and you start to say things, and Tweet things, that make no sense or are extremely offensive?

"I have a very big brain"
"I know the best words"
"I went to the best school" (then threatened them if they released my transcripts)
"Mexico will pay for it"
"There are good people on both sides"
"Nobody is more successful than I am"
"No collusion"
"I never settle" (then settles the Trump University lawsuit)
"Covfefe"
"I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions who voted illegally"
"North Korea has agreed to stop all nuclear tests"
"Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest"
'Global Warming is a hoax"
"Fake News"
"Believe me"
"Grab 'em by the pussy"
"I am, like, really smart"
"The Electoral College is a disaster for democracy"
"Why can't we use nuclear weapons?"
"He's not a war hero"
"I have the greatest temperament that anybody has"
"I've said that if Ivanka wasn't my daughter I'd be dating her" (gross)
"I love the poorly educated"
"African Americans will VOTE TRUMP"
"I know more about ISIS than the generals do"
"Putin is not going into Ukraine"
"it's called flipping and it should almost be illegal"

And that's just a teeny, tiny sample of the things said and the things believed.

Who's going to be the first to say I suffer from TDS?
That name is better used for his supporters.
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
Post 36 made on Sunday March 10, 2019 at 23:28
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On March 10, 2019 at 21:32, davidcasemore said...
Is that the hat where if you wear it your brain gets all screwed up and you start to say things, and Tweet things, that make no sense or are extremely offensive?

"I have a very big brain"
"I know the best words"
"I went to the best school" (then threatened them if they released my transcripts)
"Mexico will pay for it"
"There are good people on both sides"
"Nobody is more successful than I am"
"No collusion"
"I never settle" (then settles the Trump University lawsuit)
"Covfefe"
"I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions who voted illegally"
"North Korea has agreed to stop all nuclear tests"
"Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest"
'Global Warming is a hoax"
"Fake News"
"Believe me"
"Grab 'em by the pussy"
"I am, like, really smart"
"The Electoral College is a disaster for democracy"
"Why can't we use nuclear weapons?"
"He's not a war hero"
"I have the greatest temperament that anybody has"
"I've said that if Ivanka wasn't my daughter I'd be dating her" (gross)
"I love the poorly educated"
"African Americans will VOTE TRUMP"
"I know more about ISIS than the generals do"
"Putin is not going into Ukraine"
"it's called flipping and it should almost be illegal"

And that's just a teeny, tiny sample of the things said and the things believed.

Who's going to be the first to say I suffer from TDS?
That name is better used for his supporters.

Oh shut up. It was only a joke, nothing more. Everyone else got it, and Mac was about to make his own version of the same joke, but I beat him to it.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 37 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 00:47
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On March 10, 2019 at 21:32, davidcasemore said...
Is that the hat where if you wear it your brain gets all screwed up and you start to say things, and Tweet things, that make no sense or are extremely offensive?

"I have a very big brain"
"I know the best words"
"I went to the best school" (then threatened them if they released my transcripts)
"Mexico will pay for it"
"There are good people on both sides"
"Nobody is more successful than I am"
"No collusion"
"I never settle" (then settles the Trump University lawsuit)
"Covfefe"
"I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions who voted illegally"
"North Korea has agreed to stop all nuclear tests"
"Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest"
'Global Warming is a hoax"
"Fake News"
"Believe me"
"Grab 'em by the pussy"
"I am, like, really smart"
"The Electoral College is a disaster for democracy"
"Why can't we use nuclear weapons?"
"He's not a war hero"
"I have the greatest temperament that anybody has"
"I've said that if Ivanka wasn't my daughter I'd be dating her" (gross)
"I love the poorly educated"
"African Americans will VOTE TRUMP"
"I know more about ISIS than the generals do"
"Putin is not going into Ukraine"
"it's called flipping and it should almost be illegal"

And that's just a teeny, tiny sample of the things said and the things believed.

Who's going to be the first to say I suffer from TDS?
That name is better used for his supporters.

I think we can all laugh at this post. We know it wasn’t meant in an hurtful way. It’s just a reminder of the idiot in charge of the country who just happens to be surrounded by criminals and slime balls. However he is nothing like the people he surrounds himself with.

Teehee
Post 38 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 01:03
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On March 11, 2019 at 00:47, Hertz said...
I think we can all laugh at this post. We know it wasn’t meant in an hurtful way. It’s just a reminder of the idiot in charge of the country who just happens to be surrounded by criminals and slime balls. However he is nothing like the people he surrounds himself with.

Teehee

No, given David’s history, it was meant to be a direct attack.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 39 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 01:21
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On March 10, 2019 at 23:28, Fins said...
Oh shut up.

I'm laughing so damn hard right now!

You told me to shut up, and when I scroll up I see my post quoted a couple of more times as if to, intentionally(?), draw attention to it. You can't miss it because it's so long-winded (just like the moron who said it all. Did you see his 2-1/2 hour poetry slam at CPAC?) and takes up a lot of screen. If no-one saw it before, they sure have now! I will consider it a "like"!
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
Post 40 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 02:08
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On March 11, 2019 at 01:21, davidcasemore said...
I'm laughing so damn hard right now!

You told me to shut up, and when I scroll up I see my post quoted a couple of more times as if to, intentionally(?), draw attention to it. You can't miss it because it's so long-winded (just like the moron who said it all. Did you see his 2-1/2 hour poetry slam at CPAC?) and takes up a lot of screen. If no-one saw it before, they sure have now! I will consider it a "like"!

A couple MORE? Try counting again. A couple more would imply 3. Laugh all you want, you only continue to show what an ass you are.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 41 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 02:20
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On March 11, 2019 at 02:08, Fins said...
A couple MORE? Try counting again. A couple more would imply 3. Laugh all you want, you only continue to show what an ass you are.

My husband and I make a couple. Perhaps you meant "a few". Who's the ass now bitch?
Fins: Still Slamming' His Trunk on pilgrim's Small Weenie - One Trunk at a Time!
Post 42 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 08:53
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On March 11, 2019 at 02:20, davidcasemore said...
My husband and I make a couple. Perhaps you meant "a few". Who's the ass now bitch?

You used the words “a couple more” which means two more than something else. It would be a minimum of 3. Your stupid post was quoted twice. I quoted it once to make sure my reply was clear and then only one other person quoted it, apparently not realizing what an ass you are.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 43 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 11:02
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I can't imagine their policies can be *that* strict. At least not based on my experience.

I worked for a company that was a dealer. I didn't care for Savant, but the boss sent us to training and we started putting it in. It worked, for the most part (you'd live or die by your profiles), but it wasn't nearly as slick as the Crestron stuff we'd done. But it deployed quickly in comparison, and even the entry level guys could get it 'working', so the boss was happy.

Anyway, I left to start a company of my own and honestly had no interest in dealing with Savant. But a former customer called me and needed some stuff done to his Savant setup that I'd installed earlier, so I called them to see if I could get some support. That was a pretty hard 'No', and I basically lost that job because of it.

Shorty after that, Bob Madonna came back and cleaned house. Then the Savant rep called me (and at least couple other people around town) and asked if I was still interested in being a dealer. I sat down with them and showed them a job I was working on, which oddly enough, I didn't sell - I was hired to do install only. But it was big, and looked good, and being a 'new company', I was kinda hungry I guess, so I made like I was interested.

And that was it. Account made. Access to software. Access to online store. Went to shade training.

I considered them for a couple jobs, but honestly, the parts didn't fit the application for one reason or another. Add in the licensing BS, the 'old app' that looks like it's from 1988, the 'new app' that just doesn't work for crap and requires an account for some reason...I'm sorry, I should't need an account to turn on a TV.

So we've been using Crestron. It's been good for the most part, but yeah, relying on a programmer for the heavy lifting still is tough. But the parts work well, and for the most part, they last forever. And lighting has a lifetime warrany. And Crestron Home looks promising. And no licensing, no accounts to start, nice handheld remotes...

And while I'm on it - Lutron isn't helpful either. There are a *lot* of systems here that are now failing and no longer supported (Interactive and Illumination). Myself and my partner were both QS certified years ago, but they won't talk to us since we're not big enough yet - never mind the PILES of work we've done over the years. So they're all getting Crestron, too. Even the wireless stuff. I'm not going to Lutron's 2-day course out of town just to be able to include a Grafic T in a Ra2 project. Crestron Infinet - same application, lifetime warranty and better software (IMO).

Last edited by SWFLMike on March 11, 2019 11:35.
Post 44 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 11:14
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On March 10, 2019 at 19:05, Fins said...
From what I’ve come to realize, every product has quirks and every manufacturer has problems. You have to figure out what’s acceptable and what you can work with. I understand wanting to check out another option. But I would want to make sure the other line provided something different and wasn’t just a different apple. You mentioned possibly looking at C4, from what I’ve seen, carrying it and elan would be like pedaling red delicous and yellow delicious apples.

With the growing issues in the industry that have nothing to do with our installation or product (ex: unplug your cable box, unplug your AppleTV, unplug your router), I think I may get in the business of selling red and yellow delicious apples. What's the margin on those things?
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Post 45 made on Monday March 11, 2019 at 12:19
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On March 11, 2019 at 02:20, davidcasemore said...
My husband and I make a couple. Perhaps you meant "a few". Who's the ass now bitch?

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