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What hand-held ip CCTV viewer are you using for setup?
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Post 1 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 00:25
kwkshift
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Thanks!
Post 2 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 01:13
Ernie Gilman
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You've thanked us all very early in the process~~~

What hand-held ip CCTV viewer are you using for setup?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 3 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 07:43
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None.
Ive done so many I pretty much have them set up perfect when I install them.
If I need to, just set the system up first and then pull up the caneras with your phone to adjust.
Post 4 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 08:14
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Triplett CamView IP Pro+ 8071

We use it to get the right viewing angles, setup IP addresses, and occasionally we change default login info. If you have to rent a $600 a day lift to hang cameras three stories high, you'll love this thing and it will pay for itself by installing them perfectly the first time.
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Post 5 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 09:59
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On March 7, 2019 at 07:43, Zohan said...
None.
Ive done so many I pretty much have them set up perfect when I install them.
If I need to, just set the system up first and then pull up the caneras with your phone to adjust.

This
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 13:34
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This would be for large commercial installations where we would be on lifts 30’ up.
Post 7 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 14:19
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On March 7, 2019 at 13:34, kwkshift said...
This would be for large commercial installations where we would be on lifts 30’ up.

Can't you follow the same routine I outlined?
Either you're looking at a monitor or your phone, what's the difference?

Side note:
30' up.....F that.
At 20' I start to crap pickles.
Post 8 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 14:26
Ernie Gilman
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On March 7, 2019 at 07:43, Zohan said...
None.
Ive done so many I pretty much have them set up perfect when I install them.
If I need to, just set the system up first and then pull up the caneras with your phone to adjust.

kwkshift made it take longer for us to help him by not mentioning that he was preparing for being thirty feet up, where "pretty much" isn't good enough. (On the other hand, answering that you don't use one was not answering the question, and so, was not being helpful.)

I've done cameras eighteen feet up on a ladder where restaurant tables and fixtures that came in the next day made tweaking the camera later REALLY a pain. Since IP cameras don't have a video output per se, a monitoring device goes a long way toward simplifying the installation.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 9 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 15:25
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On March 7, 2019 at 14:26, Ernie Gilman said...
kwkshift made it take longer for us to help him by not mentioning that he was preparing for being thirty feet up, where "pretty much" isn't good enough. (On the other hand, answering that you don't use one was not answering the question, and so, was not being helpful.)

I've done cameras eighteen feet up on a ladder where restaurant tables and fixtures that came in the next day made tweaking the camera later REALLY a pain. Since IP cameras don't have a video output per se, a monitoring device goes a long way toward simplifying the installation.

Im not sure you understood my reply.
A phone IS a monitoring device.
Set up the system on the network, open the app and log in with your phone and there you have your device to adjust cameras.
Plusses are:
No need to spend extra money for another device.
Most of us carry our phones all the time, so no need to bring extra equipment up on a lift.
Post 10 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 16:08
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On March 7, 2019 at 14:26, Ernie Gilman said...
kwkshift made it take longer for us to help him by not mentioning that he was preparing for being thirty feet up, where "pretty much" isn't good enough. (On the other hand, answering that you don't use one was not answering the question, and so, was not being helpful.)

I've done cameras eighteen feet up on a ladder where restaurant tables and fixtures that came in the next day made tweaking the camera later REALLY a pain. Since IP cameras don't have a video output per se, a monitoring device goes a long way toward simplifying the installation.

There is nothing in this post that is helpful whatsoever.  Shocked?  Not I.
Post 11 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 16:09
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On March 7, 2019 at 07:43, Zohan said...
None.
Ive done so many I pretty much have them set up perfect when I install them.
If I need to, just set the system up first and then pull up the caneras with your phone to adjust.

A phone can work and I've done the same, but depends on the system.  If there is ANY lag, making even the most minor adjustment using a phone and app can be miserable and very time consuming.  I too would be interested to hear if there is a better option that folks are using.
OP | Post 12 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 17:02
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This will be on a closed system separate from WiFi so a phone can’t be used.

So what ip camera viewer is everyone using...that’s using one and not their phone, not eyeballing it etc?
Post 13 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 17:03
Ernie Gilman
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On March 7, 2019 at 15:25, Zohan said...
Im not sure you understood my reply.
A phone IS a monitoring device.
Set up the system on the network, open the app and log in with your phone and there you have your device to adjust cameras.
Plusses are:
No need to spend extra money for another device.
Most of us carry our phones all the time, so no need to bring extra equipment up on a lift.

Minuses: Using a restaurant as an example, it's quite common for the work flow to require the cameras to be set up before the tables are moved in, and this is ahead of the setup of the office... which is ahead of the setup of the DVR.

That 18 foot high location I was talking about was a real pain to get to when the office was finally put together. But that's what we had to do.

And we have run into issues such as at USC's University Village, where AT&T was A YEAR LATE getting the internet service installed!

Goldenz,
Yeah, I noticed.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 14 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 19:08
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On March 7, 2019 at 17:02, kwkshift said...
This will be on a closed system separate from WiFi so a phone can’t be used.

So what ip camera viewer is everyone using...that’s using one and not their phone, not eyeballing it etc?

As mentioned above, we use the Triplett CamView IP Pro+ 8071. I'm with you on many of our installs. Commercial, 16 or more cameras, requires a lift exc. Network configurations can be much more complex than a plug and play IP scheme. It also helps for one installer to be able to install and setup the camera while you (or another installer) are setting up the network or other systems.

We bought the Triplett openbox on ebay pretty cheap.
Elevate Technologies
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Post 15 made on Thursday March 7, 2019 at 23:01
Ernie Gilman
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Changed my mind.
On March 7, 2019 at 16:08, goldenzrule said...
There is nothing in this post that is helpful whatsoever.  Shocked?  Not I.

You don't think it is helpful to recommend that people describe their situation in enough detail to get a helpful answer? Okay, then. Sounds a little bit like you're in favor of questions like "I need a vehicle. What should I get?"
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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