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| Topic: | which HD box is better? SA or a Pioneer ? Time Warner in Manhattan. This thread has 9 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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| Post 1 made on Thursday December 23, 2004 at 11:01 |
Ted Wetzel Founding Member |
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I've got a project in Manhattan and the cable guy showed up with two different HD cable boxes that are going to be racked together. The programming seems to be the same for both? Any opinions on which box may be better suited to CAV needs or just more reliable? I don't care which one I use but I like the looks of the Pioneer better than the SA box in the Middle Atlantic rack.
Thanks,
Ted
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| Post 2 made on Thursday December 23, 2004 at 12:43 |
tweetymp4 Select Member |
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Here in San Diego, TWC offers the same array of boxes. We always ask for a Pioneer (when DVR function is not used) We have found the box to scale much better and overall better pic quality and much less quirky. Also, the DVI output is enabled, where it is not on any of the SA units. The pioneer also sends a composite video signal out to run on an NTSC TV or rack mounted LCD monitor. I have a pioneer HD box set up in my bedroom on a 10 year old 27" and share it with small 6" lcds in the kitchen and bath via a xantech amp. The HD channels look grat on the NTSC sets on composite. Not sure if the SA units do this.
Yah you're right, the pioneer just plain looks better.
The cable companies always set up their boxes differently so I do not know if this info applies to NYC
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| Post 3 made on Thursday December 23, 2004 at 13:59 |
Audible Solutionns Super Member |
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IF you can get the Pioneer go for it. Most times you are stuck with the SA and the Pioneer is simply better.
Alan
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| Post 4 made on Thursday December 23, 2004 at 20:48 |
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It was a while ago, but I had to have a customer in NYC return the SA for the Pioneer... I can't for the life of me remember why, but it had to be...
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| Post 5 made on Thursday December 23, 2004 at 22:04 |
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The pioneer box has a setting that will let the customer have a full 16 x 9 picutre wether they are watching HD or non-hd. The new SA 8000 DVR does the same. www.hvhomemedia.com
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| Post 6 made on Friday December 24, 2004 at 03:34 |
MikeTech Long Time Member |
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without a doubt, use the Pioneer. Much better
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| Post 7 made on Friday December 24, 2004 at 08:21 |
Dawn Gordon Luks Founding Member |
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If my cable system supports the SA HD boxes can I really get or sell a different box to my customers??? What Pioneer model are you folks talking about, and can I buy it from my Pioneer distributor??
Thanks,
Dawn
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| Post 8 made on Monday December 27, 2004 at 07:09 |
deb1919 Founding Member |
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On our last Manhattan job, we returned the Pioneer Voyagers for SciAtl 3150HDs for several reasons: optical output, courtesy AC outlet ( for the Crestron to track the power state ) and much smaller size. Picture quality was never an issue, the customer never noticed a difference.
Doug @ HomeWorks
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| Post 9 made on Monday December 27, 2004 at 17:41 |
Vincent Delpino Select Member |
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On 12/27/04 07:09 ET, deb1919 said...
On our last Manhattan job, we returned the Pioneer
Voyagers for SciAtl 3150HDs for several reasons:
optical output, courtesy AC outlet ( for the Crestron
to track the power state ) and much smaller size.
Picture quality was never an issue, the customer
never noticed a difference.
Doug @ HomeWorks the optical is terrible your better off using the coaxial
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| Post 10 made on Tuesday December 28, 2004 at 07:55 |
deb1919 Founding Member |
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On 12/27/04 17:41 ET, Vincent Delpino said...
the optical is terrible your better off using
the coaxial You're right, except this install required it. The Integra receivers we were using had their sole coaxial inputs occupied by the output of a Flash Matrix. Space was everything, so small boxes & no unnecessary adapters was the ticket. The customer says it sounds great, which is all that matters. Doug @ HomeWorks
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