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Edelweiss Self Playing Piano Audio Out
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OP | Post 31 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 19:07
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The Logitech BT receiver and all the other equipment you see in the photos under the piano wer installed by the piano manufacturer.  The Piano comes with an iPod Touch as the user interface and BT range with the Logitech receiver was really poor.

It lost connection as soon as you moved out of the room where the piano was located.

Client would like to control the piano by installing the app on iPad minis that are in in iPort Surface and Table Mounts in the Kitchen and Sun Room but they're too far away to connect.

One of the iPads is about 40ft away and the other is closer to 70ft so I don't think there's any way to make it work over the BT interface.  The Living Room where the piano is located is over 1000sq ft.
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Post 32 made on Saturday March 16, 2019 at 09:45
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On March 15, 2019 at 19:07, SB Smarthomes said...
The Logitech BT receiver and all the other equipment you see in the photos under the piano wer installed by the piano manufacturer.  The Piano comes with an iPod Touch as the user interface and BT range with the Logitech receiver was really poor.

It lost connection as soon as you moved out of the room where the piano was located.

Client would like to control the piano by installing the app on iPad minis that are in in iPort Surface and Table Mounts in the Kitchen and Sun Room but they're too far away to connect.

One of the iPads is about 40ft away and the other is closer to 70ft so I don't think there's any way to make it work over the BT interface.  The Living Room where the piano is located is over 1000sq ft.

The reason I commented on the Logitech receiver is because I tried to use one and it was good for about 20', going through a single cinder block wall. I like a lot of Logitech's stuff, but that thing is only BT 2.0 and the Miccus is BT 5.0

The link below is part of what changed my mind about BT- I bought another Miccus, just to have it if needed.

[Link: bluetooth.com]

Re-read my last post and think about the size of a full basketball court- it's 50' x 100' and the one I mentioned has a 15' border on all sides. I had no intention of using BT in that system but when they started whining about logging into the HEOS Link I wanted to use (because, at the time, consensus about BT was "IT SUCKS!"), my mind was changed when the school's gym teacher showed me that his ION amplified speaker (looks like a practice amp for guitar) worked over that distance. I went back, jumped online and read about BT, how it has changed and found the Miccus piece I wrote about. When it arrived, I connected it to my garage stereo and my iPhone, then started walking away as the music played. I fully expected it to start dropping out around 35' from the receiver, but t didn't. It didn't even drop out when I reached the end of my 105' driveway. I kept walking to the other side of the street- kept playing. I walked to the side, so my brick house was between the phone and BT receiver- it kept playing and never dropped out.

I thought the distance shown in the specs was BS, but I have received no complaints about it and it's the main source used in this system, aside from microphones.

When I tested it from a distance and could see the receiver from the other side of the street, I counted my steps as I walked back to the garage- I was 60 YARDS away! I really don't think 1000 ft² will be a problem.

It also has a detachable antenna- same kind as found on AVRs and many routers.

[Link: miccus.com]

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OP | Post 33 made on Wednesday March 20, 2019 at 13:46
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Thanks for the additional info on the Miccus unit.  Range ins't a problem using the iPod touch that came with the Piano within the room where the piano is located, but the client want's to control the piano from the app installed on iPads which are located in other rooms.

One iPad is only about 40ft away, but the other is about 75ft away with lots of glass, mirror and other stuff in-between.

The iPod touch looses connected as soon as you leave the piano room.  Sounds like the Miccus unit might solve the problem, but I'd need to contact the piano manufacturer first before modifying their setup.
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Post 34 made on Wednesday March 20, 2019 at 18:32
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On March 20, 2019 at 13:46, SB Smarthomes said...
Thanks for the additional info on the Miccus unit.  Range ins't a problem using the iPod touch that came with the Piano within the room where the piano is located, but the client want's to control the piano from the app installed on iPads which are located in other rooms.

One iPad is only about 40ft away, but the other is about 75ft away with lots of glass, mirror and other stuff in-between.

The iPod touch looses connected as soon as you leave the piano room.  Sounds like the Miccus unit might solve the problem, but I'd need to contact the piano manufacturer first before modifying their setup.

Unless they're owned by Logitech or have some exclusive agreement, I don't know why they would have a problem with you improving the performance so it's actually useful in their home. That would be like saying "No! The range isn't good and that's the way it's gonna stay!".
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OP | Post 35 made on Thursday March 21, 2019 at 10:42
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On March 20, 2019 at 18:32, highfigh said...
Unless they're owned by Logitech or have some exclusive agreement, I don't know why they would have a problem with you improving the performance so it's actually useful in their home. That would be like saying "No! The range isn't good and that's the way it's gonna stay!".

I wouldn't want someone tearing my stuff apart without talking to me first so it's more a matter of consideration.

I've been in contact with the manufacturer and they seem agreeable to me swapping the BT adapter and they also suggested using an Airplay adapter which would push the connection to WiFi which might be more desirable.
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Post 36 made on Thursday March 21, 2019 at 11:23
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On March 21, 2019 at 10:42, SB Smarthomes said...
I wouldn't want someone tearing my stuff apart without talking to me first so it's more a matter of consideration.

I've been in contact with the manufacturer and they seem agreeable to me swapping the BT adapter and they also suggested using an Airplay adapter which would push the connection to WiFi which might be more desirable.

True- warranty, and all.

WiFi would be good- especially since BT is interrupted when the phone rings (if they happen to use a phone or iPad with cellular).
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
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