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Extra Large Motorized Blackout Shades
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Post 1 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 11:24
tca
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We have a job that requires a 22 foot wide blackout shade. The client does not want to use drapes, and wants complete blackout. They don't want to break up the shades into more than one whole shade. This would require side rails and a 22 foot wide shade by about 10 feet high in side rails.

Has anyone ever done this before?

Thanks.
Post 2 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 12:19
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I've never done one that wide.  If you're a Lutron dealer, you can inquire with them... they do custom shades in larger dimensions than you can specify with the shade configuration tools.

I took over a job where two blackout roller shades were stacked side-by-side in a tall recessed pocket.  The two shades were overlapped by about 12-14" where they met in the center and then the left and right edges were in side channels.

I'd never seen this done before, but it worked and had been working for 5-6 years.

If you do find a way to do a single shade, I don't think you'll find fabric that wide so fabric would need to be railroaded.  Since the shade is only 10ft tall, you might be able to use the fabric horizontally without any "railroad" seems.
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Post 3 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 13:05
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On February 12, 2019 at 11:24, tca said...
We have a job that requires a 22 foot wide blackout shade. The client does not want to use drapes, and wants complete blackout. They don't want to break up the shades into more than one whole shade. This would require side rails and a 22 foot wide shade by about 10 feet high in side rails.

Has anyone ever done this before?

Thanks.

Ask if they want seams- if they say No, tell them it's not possible- even sails have seams. Fabric comes in certain widths and they don't like changing that. It's probably possible to get wider fabric, but the shade's motor will never be able to handle the weight unless you can find a projector screen that would work,

Last edited by highfigh on February 14, 2019 08:35.
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Post 4 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 14:26
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If you could even get fabric that wide it would smiley face ripple. But you cant get one that wide so that wont be a problem.

You should look into something like this [Link: smartglassinternational.com]
Post 5 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 14:38
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Or this, if they just want to add it to their existing windows-

[Link: raynofilm.com]
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Post 6 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 15:31
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If you look at companies like Da lite, they can make projection screens over 20ft wide, so I would have to think getting a black out roll shade is possible.
Going to be on a very large tube and require a lot more effort to install than your typical shade.
We did a Stewart screen in a theatre that was around 19ft wide. Took 4 guys to move it and install.
Post 7 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 16:54
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I needed a 12 foot one for my theater. I made my own. In hindsight, I should have broken it up into multiple shades. The roller (steel EMT) sags the smallest amount towards the middle causing the fabric to have slight wrinkles in the corners.
Post 8 made on Tuesday February 12, 2019 at 18:37
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call an experienced local somfy dealer
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OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday February 13, 2019 at 22:00
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We suggested motorized drapes but the designed does not want drapes. We suggested creating a pocket to hide the drapes so you cannot see them but still no go.
Post 10 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 08:36
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On February 13, 2019 at 22:00, tca said...
We suggested motorized drapes but the designed does not want drapes. We suggested creating a pocket to hide the drapes so you cannot see them but still no go.

And how often will the designer be there after the project is done?
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OP | Post 11 made on Thursday February 14, 2019 at 10:00
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Exactly.
Post 12 made on Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 12:10
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Check out US Motions/Universal Screen.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday February 27, 2019 at 21:55
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[Link: keoutdoordesign.com]
Not sure if this company could fabricate the width you need but, I am doing a custom install of this product to enclose an outdoor kitchen with see through vinyl for a client.
They claim they have 500 materials (assuming they would have black out fabric) to choose from and the guide system can be recessed into the wall, which is what we are doing into some massive cedar trimmed posts that support the pergola.
I have not seen the product in person yet but, we will have the install completed by Easter for our client.
Post 14 made on Thursday February 28, 2019 at 09:38
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I don't know if it can be made more quiet, but the exterior awnings use an extruded aluminum tube that would definitely hold the weight of blackout shades without sagging. The diameter is much larger than the usual for shades, but it would be similar to what is used in the link for the Italian company.
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Post 15 made on Thursday February 28, 2019 at 13:14
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I just saw that future automation is offering shading now! Maybe take a look at them and see what they could come up with?
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