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Post 1 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 15:52
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Does anyone make small under counter flip down TV's anymore? My gut says no and a quick search resulted in only roof mounted flip down TV's for mobile applications.
Post 2 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 16:17
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maybe one of these and tv of your choice?

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Post 3 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 17:19
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Got one of these for an up coming install- [Link: evervuetv.com] The only issue with design is that it’s difficult to conceal. The mill work company is building a false front to slide into it when nested. Would also note that Evervue could benefit from some SEO work.

The hard part of just using the flip down mount is finding a decent display. Someone here mentioned a computer monitor a while back.
Post 4 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 17:39
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[Link: totevision.com]

Monitor problem solved from above.

What mount are planning? The Flush monitors look really slick.
OP | Post 5 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 17:49
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The problem with the flip down mounts is how many TV's are available that will fold up and fit under a standard depth cabinet nowadays?
Post 6 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 20:26
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On February 11, 2019 at 17:49, goldenzrule said...
The problem with the flip down mounts is how many TV's are available that will fold up and fit under a standard depth cabinet nowadays?

True, for the past 5-7 years the few we’ve done it was clear they wouldn’t fold up out of the way but clients were happy it was off the counter and offered a swivel aspect.
Post 7 made on Monday February 11, 2019 at 21:56
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Just sell them a new fridge with Bill Bixby...

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Post 8 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 15:14
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So, installed the Evervue Cabitv-100 today. Had the client purchase it for 1299.99 and was very pleased with the results, it is gorgeous in the use position but somewhat ugly in the nested position (can live with that). Then it went south, like way south. I tried to program the Xfinity remote via the ch+ over and over method. At one point- ch+ engaged the volume but never the power... A call in resulted in speaking only to sales and an email address to support that has yet to respond. The sales department offered codes via email (well, that's not going to work!) I have a really bad feeling that this is going to turn into a cluster-f.

Damn you little things, damn you. That is all!
Post 9 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 15:35
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It came with its own remote right? So not sure I would call this 'went way south' just because the Xfinity remote doesn't have codes to work the TV. That's a bit harsh, especially considering it's an Xfinity issue.
At most I would ding them for not using common codes that LG, Samsung, Sony, etc. use.

The bigger problem is:
1) We don't have any cheap, minimalistic, well-laid-out, learning remotes anymore on the market. Those went away years ago now.
2) Everybody wants to use the stupid voice control remotes. And the big control companies (URC, RTI, Elan, C4, Savant, Crestron, etc.) STILL haven't got off their arse to put mics in their remotes and create modules in the software, to work with these devices.
Post 10 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 16:15
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On March 15, 2019 at 15:35, Brad Humphrey said...
It came with its own remote right? So not sure I would call this 'went way south' just because the Xfinity remote doesn't have codes to work the TV. That's a bit harsh, especially considering it's an Xfinity issue.
At most I would ding them for not using common codes that LG, Samsung, Sony, etc. use.

The bigger problem is:
1) We don't have any cheap, minimalistic, well-laid-out, learning remotes anymore on the market. Those went away years ago now.
2) Everybody wants to use the stupid voice control remotes. And the big control companies (URC, RTI, Elan, C4, Savant, Crestron, etc.) STILL haven't got off their arse to put mics in their remotes and create modules in the software, to work with these devices.

Great points Brad, thanks. Will likely throw Logitech at it.
Post 11 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 16:30
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Brad, you're saying the big control companies haven't yet incorporated stupid voice control. Maybe they agree that it's stupid? (Then again, Kodak thought digital photography wasn't ever going to go anywhere.)

As stupid as this sounds, does URC sell the MX850 any more? It's crude and clunky but can do exactly what you need. They say form follows function, and this remote would function right so you'd have to put up with its form. But problem solved.

Last edited by Ernie Gilman on March 15, 2019 16:40.
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Post 12 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 19:22
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Even with the cheap solution, the rub is this- the adapter and the display occupy 2 outlets in a fully surge protected environment. The STB remote is RF, so keeping it tucked away would be great. I need to toggle the TV and control volume, not asking too much here... Now, I need to explore a power solution in the cabinet and provide a friggin, or IR or RF to IR.
Post 13 made on Friday March 15, 2019 at 20:57
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On March 15, 2019 at 16:30, Ernie Gilman said...
Brad, you're saying the big control companies haven't yet incorporated stupid voice control. Maybe they agree that it's stupid? (Then again, Kodak thought digital photography wasn't ever going to go anywhere.)

As stupid as this sounds, does URC sell the MX850 any more? It's crude and clunky but can do exactly what you need.

1) When I said "cheap, minimalistic, well-laid-out, learning remotes" I was referring to the $25-$35 remotes we had 10+ years ago from URC, One-For-All, and others. These remotes were great for simple setups or even a little more. The URC WR7 was the last of those remotes and I'm guessing all the companies stop making those type remotes, to 'PUSH' people into more expensive remotes where they had much greater margin.
Now, if a customer has a simple setup (1 TV, 1 or 2 sources), they have no simple device on the market to buy if needed. The closest thing is Don's suggestion, an entry level Harmony for $50.

2) I personally do think voice control is stupid. The only useful thing voice control brings, is when a search is required. Being able to 'voice search' is much better than trying to type it.
But what I think doesn't matter, it is what the customer thinks and wants. And I have customers that use the voice function for everything (changing channels, searching, guide,...).
As far as remotes go... I am having a hard time selling any interface (remote control) these days, because it lacks voice control. Even customers that don't use it, can see the cheap remote that comes with their source box has voice control. They see my $500 remote without any voice ability and they look at me funny. Like I'm trying to sell them some outdated, overpriced, junk. And they are NOT wrong on at least a few of those thoughts.

And before someone makes the comment - because I had someone tell me "you don't understand what it takes to make a universal 'voice' remote" - there are products on the market now, that you can use Alexa, Google assistant, or Siri; all in the same box! (don't ask me for links, I'm to tired. But I read about a couple of them recently)
So the argument about it is to hard is 100% BS! The control companies are just to lazy and stupid to figure it out and do it. The only road block would be manufactures that try and block voice control of their device from 3rd parties. Maybe 'that' is a legit issue but not that it is to hard - not for a software engineer that knows what he's doing. It is just code.
Post 14 made on Saturday March 16, 2019 at 00:20
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Virtually all of our customers are anti voice. Recently a customer was given a Sonos ONE as a promotion. I mentioned that it featured voice control and asked if he wanted it activated. The answer was a big NO! Of course, there are a (very) few who like voice control
Post 15 made on Saturday March 16, 2019 at 08:26
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On March 16, 2019 at 00:20, buzz said...
Virtually all of our customers are anti voice. Recently a customer was given a Sonos ONE as a promotion. I mentioned that it featured voice control and asked if he wanted it activated. The answer was a big NO! Of course, there are a (very) few who like voice control

We don’t have a great percentage of Alexa fans but I have a hard time getting the XR voice remotes out of people’s hands. They love ‘em.


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