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Post 16 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 09:41
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On January 12, 2019 at 07:25, 3PedalMINI said...
My guess is they will use algorithms to figure out it’s not you. I’m sure they have extensive data on the types of things you watch.

It probably compares devices being used. Like if the same iPad is connecting at both locations regularly, then it’s legit. And if the other location is just sometimes. But I’d the same account is regularly streaming from two totally different locations it’s a problem. I wonder though how they are going to approach college kids in school still using mom and dad’s account
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Post 17 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 09:52
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Funny.
All you can eat movies, from $8 a month, in the comfort of your home, no late fees, no out of stock, huge selection, and people still work to beat the man.

For the veterans, can you imagine going back in time and tell people you can hook them up with the ability to instantly play any song and as many as they'd like for less than the cost of a single CD?
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Post 18 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 10:51
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On January 12, 2019 at 09:39, highfigh said...
How would that be affected if they use the ATT/DTV app, rather than a dish? Do they have internet?

Some of my clients are using apps but no app for TV is as easy as just turning on cable or Sat.  I personally have tried YouTubeTV, Hulu TV and am currently using Vue for TV.  Actually, the only reason I am trying any of those is for hockey games.  We rarely watch anything on any other channels.

Navigating channels through the guide is painful and the fact that it's the only way with these services is unrealistic for most TV watching.  Using different apps to watch TV is also unrealistic (CBS app, Fox app, ESPN app, etc.).  Most people just want to press 206 enter.
Post 19 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 10:53
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On January 12, 2019 at 09:52, Rob Grabon said...
Funny.
All you can eat movies, from $8 a month, in the comfort of your home, no late fees, no out of stock, huge selection, and people still work to beat the man.

For the veterans, can you imagine going back in time and tell people you can hook them up with the ability to instantly play any song and as many as they'd like for less than the cost of a single CD?

I don't see it as trying to "beat the man".  Netflix actually "beat" the people who were doing it when they started limiting the amount of streams per account, regardless of where they come from.
Post 20 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 12:24
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On January 12, 2019 at 10:53, internetraver said...
I don't see it as trying to "beat the man".  Netflix actually "beat" the people who were doing it when they started limiting the amount of streams per account, regardless of where they come from.

Yes, I'd guess it's this. Once they realize they've tapped out the market they try to figure out how to get more out of each customer more aggressively.

This is what cable companies/isp's have done to combat cord cutters, charge everyone more who sticks around. The only reason it might be working for them is people don't have other good options, once high-speed wireless is everywhere- good luck. I don't think I've ever heard someone speak positive about spectrum cable. People don't like getting nickle and dimed
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Post 21 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 12:55
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I don’t see this as getting more out of each customer. It’s netflix trying to stop people from not paying their share. I’ve got a cousin that’s 30 and she and her husband share accounts with all their friends. One person pays for HBO, one pays for Netflix, etc. You have 7 or 8 couples all sharing the same accounts. If all the streams are being used, then you wait.
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Post 22 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 13:15
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If they first weed out as much sharing as possible, when they do the next price increase they won't have to raise the price as much. It's going to be real interesting to see how much price increase people will be willing to take over the next few years! Their content costs are unsustainable.
Post 23 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 13:30
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I don't do any of this and don't personally agree with it but do you think her and her friends will all spring for multiple accounts if this takes hold?

I'd have a feeling that most people in this boat like the idea of having access to all of that content but don't use it enough to pay, at least that's been my experience from the people I've dealt with.

I think the market is approaching saturated, it's going to be tough to find new paying customers.
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Post 24 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 13:52
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On January 12, 2019 at 12:55, Fins said...
One person pays for HBO, one pays for Netflix, etc. You have 7 or 8 couples all sharing the same accounts. If all the streams are being used, then you wait.

I don't think I know anyone who would "wait" just to save 20 or 30 bucks a month.  Once they sat down to watch a show and ran into this a handful of times, they would just get their own account.
Post 25 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 13:53
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Hold up everyone. A company called Synamedia, displaying at CES, clearly press released this using the Netflix name to move the needle. Seems to have worked. No where can I find an article that has any first hand comment by Netflix.

From an article about it (emphasis mine): “The company says the system is already being tested and in the future it will be offered to other streaming services like Netflix and HBO.”

In fact, I only jumped in to this fray because I remembered reading this Article in which the CEOs of both Netflix and HBO express positivity towards account sharing: [Link: techcrunch.com]

Nothing more to see here, folks.
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Post 26 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 14:44
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People in India and Russia will turn 'sharing' an account into a business, LOL!
Post 27 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 15:54
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On January 11, 2019 at 21:00, Fins said...
I don’t think they will lose customers. The people paying for it already won’t be offended by this move. I like the idea of people paying for their own service just like I do.

Hopefully the monitoring will enable them to kill all those hacked streaming devices as well.

I'd love to see them going after the bottom feeders selling the items with the ability to steal the service and those using them.
Post 28 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 16:04
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On January 12, 2019 at 13:30, techvalley said...
I'd have a feeling that most people in this boat like the idea of having access to all of that content but don't use it enough to pay, at least that's been my experience from the people I've dealt with.

Nah, the current thought process is "It's out their online, so it's free. It's not theft of service because it's out there.".

The moral values have changed. Everything should be free, and it's not my fault are the accepted thing now.
Post 29 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 16:45
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On January 12, 2019 at 13:30, techvalley said...
I don't do any of this and don't personally agree with it but do you think her and her friends will all spring for multiple accounts if this takes hold?

I'd have a feeling that most people in this boat like the idea of having access to all of that content but don't use it enough to pay, at least that's been my experience from the people I've dealt with.

I think the market is approaching saturated, it's going to be tough to find new paying customers.

I doubt everyone sharing will get accounts. But I also don’t see them losing accounts over this either. The original account holders will cancel accounts. And I’d say some of the bums will get their own accounts. But it will also cut down some numbers of viewing, so I would assume it will save royalties they have to pay
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Post 30 made on Saturday January 12, 2019 at 16:47
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On January 12, 2019 at 13:52, internetraver said...
I don't think I know anyone who would "wait" just to save 20 or 30 bucks a month.  Once they sat down to watch a show and ran into this a handful of times, they would just get their own account.

I think you are right, if it happens a few times to someone they will get their own account. But until then, it works for them.
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