My comment isn't about Snap or the State of HD. Its about your consistent belittling of those that don't install the highest-end of products. When the client allows it, I would hope that's exactly what we do, the best of the best.

Jealous? LOL. I say kudos to you for getting a high end client, or more.

Glad to see your comment on Apple TV and Sonos. That was respectful. I don't do much of that type of install but that is sometimes all that is required. Not the preferred job and often avoided or passed on.



Specs are not my point. Hopefully you get it now.

We all don't get to do 6 figure jobs on every install. That doesn't make the installer a trunk slammer nor does it make them not being 'the best they can be'. Not every solution, expensive or not, is the right solution for every job. But you know this. We just get tired of arrogant posting that attempts to put those "in their place".

MoIP and similar solutions can be the exact proper solution for a particular job. Period. If you disagree, FINE. Just don't tell others they are idiots for using it.

Did you say something? No. You rarely offer anything of value. That's sad. Next.

While the Crestron Director is not needed for just a half dozen pieces, You would be surprised on the price of the NVX line. Support and configuration, built in HDMI switch, plus more. I find it hard to beat. CAT7a is not a requirement for operation, crestron prefers it. But it works just fine with Cat6.

The thing is specs are my point, it is something we need to know. We are the pros. Using low end gear on a high end job is a disservice to the customer. I stand by comments. I've asked but have not received an answer, 7.X gbs HDMI bandwidth?? Again, have you read the Cedia HDR white paper, read the specs on the last page.

You keep saying I am belittling someone in this thread, or calling someone an idiot. But all I said is I would not use those products. Then you made this personal... If you don't like my suggestions don't use them, but I will keep giving them as long as I participate here. If I have crossed a line the moderators know how to reach out. You are not a moderator or someone I need to keep happy. You are more than welcome to ignore my posts, like changing the channel if you don't like the show.

I mention Sonos here all the time and we do a bit of it. More than I would like, but when it fits the budget and hits the solution needed it gets used. Trust me, I would much rather work on the kind of systems I was playing with today.

How is Crestron getting higher specs over IP than other manufacturers?

They use JPEG2000 wavelet-based compression. I am not sure how they engineer higher specs than others, but DM has been the gold standard for many years. They have many engineers on staff working on this. I have done dozens of DM systems over the years and now a handful for DM-NVX systems.

I was at a project today with a 100" Sony Z about a foot away from the screen. Even with Xfinity as the source it looked pretty damn good. This was NVX going through a Lumagen Radiance, which did not hurt the end result. I just happened to be working on the shelf below the TV and noticed the heart I was not analyzing for this thread.

We've ran NVX with a plethora of sources including K-scape, Roku, Apple TV, to name a few. Display include Sony OLEDs, several size Z series, and a few Sony projectors including the $60K 5000ES. Love em or hate em the end result is pretty freaking impressive.

And yes, I am a lucky asshole who gets to play with this stuff. :)

Have you compared Crestron in side by side tests with other brands? Or have you used any other systems and can provide feedback on how they compare?

I’ve toured the Snap facilities on a couple occasions and they also have many engineers working on this stuff. I doubt any manufacturer has only one guy in his mom’s garage working on HDMI distribution.

In many threads, you demean. I'll accept its just the way you are. That's fine. But you need to own it. Denial is just a cover.

I'm done.

I have not had a chance to do a side by side as we do not have a lab in our office. I've used plenty of matrices over the years and demo anything and everything at Cedia each year. When I can't get answers, they are vague, o JAP's tag line for years, its good enough, and they (customer) do not need that. I avoid those products. We have a lot of faux K out there and it is getting us into trouble.

I once had a client yell at me because she figured out we were using a Samsung TV in a pop up cabinet almost completely covered in fabric. Her words were anyone can buy that TV, I want something special. This was 32" (or so) display for a guest bed room.

So sometimes good enough is not really good enough. When it is run with it I guess.

But in THIS thread you attempt to demean me over and over. While pulling off your specialty, bringing nothing to a thread. You should get off your high horse. Like you, I'm just another schmuck on the Internet.

I've admitted here and many other times I'm an asshole. I guess now might be a good time to enlighten you that any day I'm called an asshole I consider it a successful day. Is a thank you appropriate here?

That's not all of it. Despite working in this field for years, we all have certain things we have not done. This came up recently when a not at all new member asked questions about how to mount an articulating arm in a cabinet up against a wall. He was put down for not knowing already.

He came here to ask because he knew this was new to him. He got some good answers, as well as a few hints that weren't quite good enough.

This is how we grow. Don't be mad at people who haven't done what you've done -- help 'em out!

We can only hope

You're welcome.

I feel the same way lol.

This thread needs some cream.