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Post 1 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 15:48
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Over the next week I've been tasked with redoing our master bedroom. It is an awkward layout to say the least. I Am generally pretty good with lighting layouts but this one kind of has me stumped. By going with the rules of lighting (3 types (layers) of light) My Plan is to use downward sconces on the nightstands, regular sconces on either side of the dresser, A chandelier above the bed and recessed lighting. Technically thats four layers of lights since the sconces on either side of the dresser will be a different style from the ones above the nightstands.

First of all this drawling is not even close to scale, but gives you an idea of how our room is laid out. The red is exterior windows and the blue is the closet doors. The green bump out is the entry doors (just realized its green, should be blue) The bed is centered on that wall but not centered to the front windows (drives my OCD wild)

my plan is to remove the ceiling fan, currently centered to the windows and center the chandelier over the bed plane. A corner ceiling mounted fan will be installed in the top right corner (I cant sleep without air movement) Where I am getting tripped up is the light pattern between the bed and the dresser. there is alot of dead space there and if I center the recessed lights to the doors they will be close to the dresser.

I dont plan on putting recessed lights above the bed but did plan on putting them in a U shape around the room. Recessed lights will be 4".

Im also getting tripped up on lighting control. I cant decide if I want the recessed lights on the left hand side be separately controlled from the recessed lights in the rest of the room. Im thinking for when one of us is getting ready before the other one is awake. Maybe controlling the sconces above the dresser makes more sense. Thoughts?

Finally- The TV location has me perplexed. I cannot figure out where to stick it. I cant do a lift infront of the bed because there is not enough space to walk between the wall and end of bed (30" currently) I cant do drop down TV due to being in a ranch and my roof line is very shallow. I cant do a fold down either because I have truses and I cant chop into them to restructure the ceiling. I also cant hang it in the right top corner because the ceiling fan is going there. the Left corner is out of the question, the TV is currently there but looks stupid with our new dresser. Any clever Ideas on that? (Im married now so dont say do other activities) lol!

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Post 2 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 18:28
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To help with the OCD, have window curtain run wall to wall.

In our MBR the can light are arranged so that two are over the bed, and two are over the wall directly opposite, and are on separate controls.

Personally I hate sconces, so we have table lamps and they are on tabletop controls (the old URC ones), and since out MBTH door is stained glass we get enough indirect light if one gets up in the middle of the night.

Maybe center the TV on the bed, and have it high on the wall above the window, as close to the curtains as can be? You would want it up high anyway since it'll be easier to watch all that porn....LOL
Post 3 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 21:06
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Clearly one of the finest examples of "first world problems" I've ever heard ;)
Post 4 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 21:13
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Get a bunk bed, rotate it 90 degrees so it runs parallel to the long wall, centered on the smaller window. Hang TV from the end of the bunk bed. The wife will love it, plus you wonít have far to go if she kicks you out of bed.
Post 5 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 21:17
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Iím lost how on how you canít handle the lights not being centered but the ceiling fan is going in the right corner, completely throwing everything off. See a therapist for your OCD, and look at it from a functional manner instead of form. As someone else who needs a fan to sleep, Iím telling you, youíll regret not having the fan over the bed. And if tv in the bedroom is important to you, then put it where the best viewing angle is. Put the lights where they work, and donít walk around looking at the ceiling to see whatís symmetrical.

As for controlling the lights, again, donít over complicate it. Too many switches is a pain. Keep it simple.
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Post 6 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 22:20
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On December 21, 2018 at 21:17, Fins said...
As for controlling the lights, again, donít over complicate it. Too many switches is a pain. Keep it simple.

A micro switch mounted under the mattress.

Lights go on and off too slowly you're doing it wrong...LOL
Post 7 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 22:31
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On December 21, 2018 at 21:17, Fins said...
As someone else who needs a fan to sleep, Iím telling you, youíll regret not having the fan over the bed.

I'm wondering if he means that the old ceiling paddle fan over the bed will be removed, and the new fan, in the corner, wouldn't be a ceiling fan. It would be a standard oscillating fan mounted from the ceiling. Maybe?

Like this:

[Link: build.com]
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Post 8 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 22:53
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On December 21, 2018 at 22:31, davidcasemore said...
I'm wondering if he means that the old ceiling paddle fan over the bed will be removed, and the new fan, in the corner, wouldn't be a ceiling fan. It would be a standard oscillating fan mounted from the ceiling. Maybe?

Like this:

[Link: build.com]

Classy
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Post 9 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 10:54
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On December 21, 2018 at 22:31, davidcasemore said...
Like this:

[Link: build.com]

One of my clients had one of those fans in the "bar" area. It was mounted up near a corner, and while it moved a lot of air (I do mean a lot) it was very loud. It could not be run on high as the noise was unbearable.

Maybe it being in a corner caused the noise?
Post 10 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 13:22
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On December 21, 2018 at 15:48, 3PedalMINI said...

Thanks!
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So bottom left is the entry door? It would drive me crazy having the door behind the bed like that. I want to be able to see who i am shooting at. I would flip the bed and night stands to the window-wall and do wall to wall drapes to help with OCD. Maybe put them on a track so you can open them in the morning. Now you have a nice big wall to center a thin TV on.

I would think hard about the fan in the corner. If air movement is important i would get a nice ceiling fan centered over the bed. You can replace it with a chandelier when you sell the house. The corner mounted fan will totally defeat the purpose of having the "bling" light fixture above the bed.
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Post 11 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 17:40
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On December 22, 2018 at 13:22, Mac Burks (39) said...
So bottom left is the entry door? It would drive me crazy having the door behind the bed like that. I want to be able to see who i am shooting at.

I agree with the door/bed arrangement. Although I don't own a gun, I DO want to know who is shooting at me!
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Post 12 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 19:28
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I also agree with Mac. Ideally you want the bed on a wall opposite of where you walk in. The other option is putting the bed on the other window wall. So the bed is facing the dresser. My master bedroom is similar to that layout. I had remodels the room though and replaced the one window you have in that wall with 2 smaller narrow windows Iíve removed the nightstands. I know you said itís not to scale so not sure if you even have the ability to put the bed on that wall or how high the existing window is.

As far as lighting. Over my bed I put 2ea low voltage recessed mr-16 halogen lights with a smaller hole. The light shines straight down over the head/ upper body area. They are in dimmers as well. My headboard is metal and open so the switches are behind the headboard.
Post 13 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 19:45
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On December 22, 2018 at 13:22, Mac Burks (39) said...
So bottom left is the entry door? It would drive me crazy having the door behind the bed like that. I want to be able to see who i am shooting at.

Glad to know someone else has the same problem. Iíve been that way all my life. I have to have the bed where my side can see the door just in case. And unlike david, I have 4 pistols in my night stand.
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Post 14 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 22:30
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On December 22, 2018 at 19:45, Fins said...
And unlike david, I have 4 pistols in my night stand.

And they're all glad to see me.
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OP | Post 15 made on Sunday December 23, 2018 at 11:19
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On December 22, 2018 at 19:28, imt said...
I also agree with Mac. Ideally you want the bed on a wall opposite of where you walk in. The other option is putting the bed on the other window wall. So the bed is facing the dresser. My master bedroom is similar to that layout. I had remodels the room though and replaced the one window you have in that wall with 2 smaller narrow windows Iíve removed the nightstands. I know you said itís not to scale so not sure if you even have the ability to put the bed on that wall or how high the existing window is.

As far as lighting. Over my bed I put 2ea low voltage recessed mr-16 halogen lights with a smaller hole. The light shines straight down over the head/ upper body area. They are in dimmers as well. My headboard is metal and open so the switches are behind the headboard.

We actually had the bed facing the dresser but rearranged so we could have more space. The way the bed laid out it killed space for other storage options. Its just a horrible room for layout. If our home wasnt brick I would redo the windows in a hearbeat for a better layout.

I think I've figured out the lighting layout. We are going todo a ceiling fan in the corner similar to what was posted. Because my wife worships Joanna and fixer upper the room is going to have shiplap (yay, can you tell how excited I am?) So the fan will look appropriate for the room. However to appease my more higher end/traditional styles the room will get some nice moldings and of course the lighting. Im doing the shiplap in a way so it will be easily removable when this stupid craze goes away. Im not worried about too many switches as Ive rewired our entire house to be on panelized lighting.

Recessed lighting in a U shape (not centered to the door) But broken up into two loads for mornings so half the room comes on.
Chandelier will be its own load
Dresser Sconces
Bed Sconces
Window Candles

So a total of 6 loads.

The only thing I haven't figured out is the TV location. I think the only thing that makes sense is to have a projector/screen come out of the ceiling :P
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