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| Topic: | Sonos AMP sucks? This thread has 63 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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| Post 16 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 12:11 |
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On December 22, 2018 at 12:10, buzz said...
It's a decent sounding amplifier, certainly better than CONNECT:AMP. Then the 2 I installed were clearly defective.
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| Post 17 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 12:38 |
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Someone with an audio generator, loads, and a scope should spend 15 minutes and see what it does..
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| Post 18 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 12:55 |
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I've always thought the Connect:Amp was a turd, but have been impressed with the new AMP. I've had one of the AMPs since summer for Beta testing. It's a pre-production unit, but I don't think the hardware was changed.
My experience is sound quality of AMP over the old Connect:Amp is night and day difference with the new AMP clearly better. I've done some A/B/C testing with the new AMP compared to the old Connect:Amp and also Marantz SR6012 and prefer the AMP (Marantz comes in as a close second and the old Connect:Amp isn't in the same league).
When I swapped from a Connect:Amp to the new AMP even my wife who doesn't give a shit about any of this immediately commented on how much better it sounded when playing music.
Not sure what's going on with those of you reporting that you can't get enough volume out of the new AMP. Mine is in our Living Room connected to a pair of bookshelf speakers and we use it every day for TV & music with volume settings that are usually between 20-35%.
I just did a test by grouping our Living Room and Back Yard. The back yard has an original Connect:Amp powering a pair of outdoor speakers, and the Living Room has the new AMP powering a pair of bookshelf speakers. It's not a perfect comparison because of the different speakers, but with both zones set to 50%, the new AMP has noticeably more output.
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| Post 19 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 13:19 |
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On December 22, 2018 at 12:55, SB Smarthomes said...
It's not a perfect comparison because of the different speakers, but with both zones set to 50%, the new AMP has noticeably more output. That could just be due to different volume control chip taper- what difference do you hear when they're at WOT and only a few clicks above minimum?
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| Post 20 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 14:15 |
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On December 22, 2018 at 12:55, SB Smarthomes said...
I've always thought the Connect:Amp was a turd, but have been impressed with the new AMP. I've had one of the AMPs since summer for Beta testing. It's a pre-production unit, but I don't think the hardware was changed.
My experience is sound quality of AMP over the old Connect:Amp is night and day difference with the new AMP clearly better. I've done some A/B/C testing with the new AMP compared to the old Connect:Amp and also Marantz SR6012 and prefer the AMP (Marantz comes in as a close second and the old Connect:Amp isn't in the same league).
When I swapped from a Connect:Amp to the new AMP even my wife who doesn't give a shit about any of this immediately commented on how much better it sounded when playing music.
Not sure what's going on with those of you reporting that you can't get enough volume out of the new AMP. Mine is in our Living Room connected to a pair of bookshelf speakers and we use it every day for TV & music with volume settings that are usually between 20-35%.
I just did a test by grouping our Living Room and Back Yard. The back yard has an original Connect:Amp powering a pair of outdoor speakers, and the Living Room has the new AMP powering a pair of bookshelf speakers. It's not a perfect comparison because of the different speakers, but with both zones set to 50%, the new AMP has noticeably more output. You're experience is what I was expecting (except I don't think the Connect:amp in the right situation is that bad). Unfortunately the two I did it was just not the case. I emailed Sonos and they want me to run a diagnostic to send back but I have to wait till I'm on-site.
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| Post 21 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 16:20 |
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On December 22, 2018 at 09:33, chris-L5S said...
Good news, if you are interested in purchasing Sonos stock, its $9.58 share now. hasbeen was extolling the virtues of buying Sonos stock in a previous thread... They do say to buy low, sell high. Looking at the current trend with their stock, you could easily believe that the price will drop further before the next financial report where the stock will recover. Then it will drop again until the next financial report... Would I want to be the Sonos CEO right now? Nope.
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This industry is not getting cheaper and cheaper, we're simply convincing ourselves that we have to push the cheapest option to customers.
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| Post 22 made on Saturday December 22, 2018 at 17:33 |
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On December 22, 2018 at 16:20, dunnersfella said...
They do say to buy low, sell high. I'd wait a little longer to buy stock. Wait until Putin Puppet causes the market to crash even more and then buy your stock.
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| Post 23 made on Sunday December 23, 2018 at 01:20 |
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Realistically...where can Sonos go from here? Amazon and Google are sprinting into the multi room "Sonos killer" audio market. $100 widgets will replace $200 widgets. Audio quality will suffer but people won't care.
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| Post 24 made on Sunday December 23, 2018 at 04:09 |
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Sonos will either drop to meet them (at their peril) or will aim higher and move up a notch. The Beam indicates the former, the new Amp indicates the latter.
If they head to outdoor speakers and their very own streaming service they will differentiate themselves well enough. But if their stock price drops too far... I'm picking they will be bought out by a company unable to do anything even remotely cool in the multi-room area.
*looks in Microsoft's general direction*
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This industry is not getting cheaper and cheaper, we're simply convincing ourselves that we have to push the cheapest option to customers.
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| Post 25 made on Tuesday December 25, 2018 at 08:23 |
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Wow, I would blame more on the speakers than the amp. The Sonos amp impressed me so many times... i think the only time i was not happy with the end result was a connect amp driving 4 Bose Freespace landscaping speakers we installed one time. we ended up using a Connect amp + a Crown amp.
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| OP | Post 26 made on Tuesday December 25, 2018 at 08:29 |
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On December 25, 2018 at 08:23, Techsquad said...
Wow, I would blame more on the speakers than the amp. The Sonos amp impressed me so many times... i think the only time i was not happy with the end result was a connect amp driving 4 Bose Freespace landscaping speakers we installed one time. we ended up using a Connect amp + a Crown amp. Were talking about the new Sonos amp, not the connect amp. (Stupid nomenclature) The Connect amp left a lot to be desired, but compared to the AMP it’s heads and tails better (assuming there is something wrong with the amps that have no volume)
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| Post 27 made on Tuesday December 25, 2018 at 10:35 |
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On December 20, 2018 at 17:00, 3PedalMINI said...
Just did my first Sonos amp. Perfect scenario for it. Two in ceiling Triad R28’s connected to a bar TV. Now I’ve done the R28’s enough to know that they sound pretty good, even off the connect:amp. I was anxious to try this because of all the good things I’ve heard and have seen guys powering tower speakers off it.
Now I know the R28s aren’t great but they are pretty good for what they are.
This amp made them sound awful. And I couldn’t get much volume out of them, even turned up all the way. I checked that the limit wasn’t turned on and it wasn’t.
A few weeks ago another poster posted the same thing (goldenzrule) is there a bad run of these? I cannot believe that this is normal, because if it is it’s going to have to be connects into 3rd party amps.
Anyone else seeing the same thing? Not saying someone did it, but is it possible that the wires were connected with one pair reversed? Most amps have the + terminals at the outside when they have a horizontal row but Sonos decided to buck that trend and go with - + - +, from left to right and I completely disagree with their decision. That would certainly make the speakers sound terrible. When I heard the Amp playing through a pair of small speakers, my immediate thought was that a speaker was reversed- when I turned it toward the other, the bass did improve, yet the wires were connected 'correctly'.
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| OP | Post 28 made on Wednesday December 26, 2018 at 10:28 |
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On December 25, 2018 at 10:35, highfigh said...
Not saying someone did it, but is it possible that the wires were connected with one pair reversed? Most amps have the + terminals at the outside when they have a horizontal row but Sonos decided to buck that trend and go with - + - +, from left to right and I completely disagree with their decision. That would certainly make the speakers sound terrible.
When I heard the Amp playing through a pair of small speakers, my immediate thought was that a speaker was reversed- when I turned it toward the other, the bass did improve, yet the wires were connected 'correctly'. I wonder if the paint was wrong on the sticker. Hmm. I almost want to say it was -+ +- I also don’t like the removable binding posts on these amps. If there was infact a manufactures mistake on the paint/sticker this could explain a lot....
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| OP | Post 29 made on Wednesday December 26, 2018 at 10:34 |
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Thinking about this, wouldn’t it just mean one of the speakers would be out of phase?
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| Post 30 made on Wednesday December 26, 2018 at 10:43 |
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