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DIYPro: How to Ruin Vinyl.
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Post 16 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 01:08
Ernie Gilman
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On December 18, 2018 at 23:58, buzz said...
I wouldn’t bother attempting this stunt with a Project class turntable outfitted with an OM-10.

I would. These days people have so little experience listening to ANY music on a quality system that it's impossible to say that they would recognize any drawbacks to an OM-10, as well as recognize the superiority of a CD.

Back in the past....caution: artsy-fartsy New Age Stuff

In the early 70s there was a thing called Touch For Health (it still exists). One of the things they would do was a test to point out bad stuff (vibrations). You'd hold your right arm straight out sideways from your body, then bend the elbow so the forearm went forward.

You'd then hold something predicted to have bad vibrations in your left hand. If indeed it DID have bad vibrations, a person could push down on your right hand and your arm could not resist the push -- the arm would go down. If you were holding something with good vibrations, it was near impossible to push down the arm. This method was suggested for testing, say, vegetables in supermarkets. Real New Age Stuff.

When CDs came out and the initial ones sounded all screechy, I wondered if anyone had ever done a TFH test while listening to them. See, I had a girlfriend in college who was quite a wonderful violinist, and more than once I listened to her practicing from close up. VIOLINS MAKE HORRIDLY SCREECHY SOUNDS. My experience of hearing this, from a pro, at about five feet made me wonder if all the initial screechy sounding CDs weren't perhaps the accurate recordings. Nobody ever tested for that with the Touch For Health test.
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OP | Post 17 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 08:26
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Ernie, the author replied in the comments section to your comments 😇
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Post 18 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 09:45
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Original article now gone... 404

Google search returns an older review from 2012
[Link: cepro.com]
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Post 19 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 10:47
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On December 17, 2018 at 21:23, Fins said...
Because converting vinyl to compressed digital audio is what every audiophile wants

There are ways to save the tracks in higher-resolution formats, though. Not with this, but with an outboard DAC. Also, it's possible to remove the clicks & pops with something like Audacity, so that helps with the dynamics.

If I could stand the tedium, I would convert all of my vinyl to digital, so I could listen to that music outside of the house.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 20 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 10:52
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On December 19, 2018 at 01:08, Ernie Gilman said...
See, I had a girlfriend in college who was quite a wonderful violinist, and more than once I listened to her practicing from close up. VIOLINS MAKE HORRIDLY SCREECHY SOUNDS. My experience of hearing this, from a pro, at about five feet made me wonder if all the initial screechy sounding CDs weren't perhaps the accurate recordings. Nobody ever tested for that with the Touch For Health test.

I would bet that she was trying to play quietly, which is when the screechy sounds happen most. It's easy to play a violin loudly- the bow is in better contact with the strings but to play quietly, there's less pressure and the bow doesn't move as fast. A good violin is surprisingly loud.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
OP | Post 21 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 12:18
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On December 19, 2018 at 01:08, Ernie Gilman said...
. See, I had a girlfriend in college

Well I just lost $20
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Post 22 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 16:11
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On December 19, 2018 at 12:18, Fins said...
Well I just lost $20

You should have known. Anything is possible...LOL
OP | Post 23 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 20:45
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Well, looks like the article is really down for good. LOL
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Post 24 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 21:00
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As I was reading the above with the TV on, a news guy used the phrase "heaping pile."

That's what the article was: a heaping pile.
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Post 25 made on Wednesday December 19, 2018 at 22:29
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On December 19, 2018 at 20:45, Fins said...
Well, looks like the article is really down for good. LOL

Sure, that's good. But it's not good enough to just sweep it under the rug and make it go away.

They need to fess up to the mistake(s) and issue an apology.

Then they could print two reviews - one of the turntable and one of the DAC.
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Post 26 made on Thursday December 20, 2018 at 09:27
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It's too bad so many people are getting into vinyl as a way to be trendy. Hipsters suck and when they decide to drop it, that industry is gonna crash hard.
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Post 27 made on Thursday December 20, 2018 at 10:16
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On December 20, 2018 at 09:27, highfigh said...
It's too bad so many people are getting into vinyl as a way to be trendy. Hipsters suck and when they decide to drop it, that industry is gonna crash hard.

Trade you three Beanie Babies with tags for your copy of Dark Side of the Moon?
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Post 28 made on Thursday December 20, 2018 at 10:50
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Recently had someone say "Most of this audiophile stuff is just plain malarkey designed to rob you of your hard earned money.".

I guess he bought a lot of Monster Cable and is pissed?
Post 29 made on Thursday December 20, 2018 at 11:41
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On December 20, 2018 at 09:27, highfigh said...
It's too bad so many people are getting into vinyl as a way to be trendy. Hipsters suck and when they decide to drop it, that industry is gonna crash hard.

Not just that industry. Remember the tech boom of, what, 1990something? It crashed after state governments (my stupid California government, at least) had ratcheted up their budgets and their pensions because all this tax money was going to be coming in forever... and when the tech boom burst, all that was left was commitments to pay hugely increased pensions.

There's a smell of boom in the air and California is once more seeing the wonderful things that government can spend us into.
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Post 30 made on Friday December 21, 2018 at 00:16
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On December 18, 2018 at 14:34, Trunk-Slammer -Supreme said...
So, you're one of those guys that never kept the LP's in the cover stock, dropped the tone arm just any old place instead of using the provided damping lift, and always managed to place your grubby hands all over the surface?

Yeah, YOUR LP's will exhibit all that nastiness.

You funny man.
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