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Post 1 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 19:57
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We have a residential door that is made of metal and is about 12 feet high. It is the type that can swing in or out, but it has a stopper to prevent it from opening out. Right now it has a type of deadbolt that locks the door. The client would like to have a door strike installed. I think we may need to do something custom due to the measurements of where the deadbolt cutout is in relation to the door frame. if anyone has any recommendations we are open to all ideas. Thanks for the help.







Post 2 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 23:03
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Overall, this looks like the lock system was designed to support a sliding door. I hope that the door manufacturer has the hardware to do this. Otherwise, you'll be facing a miserable machining process and I doubt that any standard lock sets will support this arrangement.

How about installing a magnetic lock?
Post 3 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 23:42
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This sure does look like a sliding door lock. And the interior knob doesn't line up with the exterior key hole which seems to be much higher.

Is there a manufacturer or part number on the lock anywhere? If so, try and look it up online to see if it's even made for this use. Normally a hinged door has a latch and strike plate separate from a deadbolt. It's hard to tell from your pictures if this is even a standard mortise lock opening. If it is you could replace it with a proper lock.

It's almost as if they took half of a sliding door and mounted it on a pivot hinge.
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OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 23:48
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You are correct. It is the same lock on their sliding doors. It's made by a company called Fleetwood. You can see the name on one of the pictures I posted in the first post.

That being said, I've seen door strikes that can handle deadbolts. The issue we would have is the strike cutout is in the middle of a 4.5 inch metal frame. It's normally much closer to the inside end of the metal.

Can anyone recommend a strike that would work for this type of setup? I don't think the fact that the lock is made for a slider makes a difference. It works now without a strike, so it should work fine with a strike, as long as the strike fits and can handle a deadbolt force.
Post 5 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 23:51
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If you can find something you're going to have to cut a huge slice out of the door frame so the deadbolt can pass.

Either that or get a motorized lock.
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Post 6 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 23:56
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On further thought, this looks like a commercial mullion door. As such, possibly adding a panic bar would be an approach.
Post 7 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 01:34
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I think you're in for a challenge unless you can swap out the existing lockset with a standard mortised lock or deadbolt lock.

Hager makes some electric strikes designed to work with dead bolts.  I've used them a long time ago at several commercial projects.  They're big and clunky, but work: [Link: hagerco.com]

If the client would like to have the door swing both ways, you could remove the stopper that's installed and then use a magnetic shear lock.  This could be concealed in the door and jamb instead of being surface mounted like most mag locks and the mechanical lock would be redundant.

The shear locks are finicky to get adjusted, but work well in metal doors.  If it was a wood door/frame, I'd advise against the shear mag lock because any shift in the door or frame will cause it to malfunction until it's readjusted.
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Post 8 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 01:46
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On December 13, 2018 at 01:34, SB Smarthomes said...
I think you're in for a challenge unless you can swap out the existing lockset with a standard mortised lock or deadbolt lock.

Hager makes some electric strikes designed to work with dead bolts.  I've used them a long time ago at several commercial projects.  They're big and clunky, but work: [Link: hagerco.com]

He would have to swap out the lock because the current "deadbolt" is more of a hook and a standard strike plate wouldn't have any space above for the hook to go into.

Then, if you look at his first photo you can see that 1-5/8" of "meat" would have to be channeled out of the door frame for the deadbolt to be able to pass. Normally those electric strike plates are for the latch bolt and not the deadbolt.
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OP | Post 9 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 01:57
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I don't think the hook is used now, and I don't think the hook would affect the strike. As long as the deadbolt catches behind the strike it should be fine, just like it does now in the current setup.

We will need to cut out at least 3/4 of an inch on the 1 1/4" part of the photo so the deadbolt will actually pass once the strike is open.

I need to find a strike that can cover all the meat that is cut out and be strong enough to handle a deadbolt.
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 02:18
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Maybe something like this:

[Link: grainger.com]

[Link: americanlocksets.com]

The trick will be to how to cut out the frame so the deadbolt does not hit it.

Any ideas?
Post 11 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 02:31
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I wonder if this would fit and cover most of the chunk you'd have to remove

[Link: trineonline.com]

Page 3, Model 234X-375 (it's upside down in the picture on how you would mount it)
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OP | Post 12 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 02:46
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I don’t think that lock is rated for a deadbolt, but the plate is a good idea. It looks like it would cover the cutout into the door frame necessary for the deadbolt.
Post 13 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 03:14
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Is Fleetwood still in business? Maybe the guys who thought this up have some other tricks already throught through. It's worth a call!
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Post 14 made on Thursday December 13, 2018 at 03:39
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electronic deadbolt or drop bolt?

Leave the existing lock "as is" for full security, i.e. lock it when going to bed or on vacation. Use the electronic lock for the "convenience"

Or face the fact that if someone wants in, they're going to break the glass and never use the existing lock...

quick google search came up with these:

[Link: thebuilderssupply.com]

[Link: americanlocksets.com]

[Link: grainger.com]

Yes, fleetwood is alive and well. Working on of fleetwood sliders right now.
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