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Topic: | Smart TV vs. ATV/Roku This thread has 31 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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Post 16 made on Saturday December 1, 2018 at 12:06 |
Brad Humphrey Super Member |
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On November 30, 2018 at 19:11, osiris said...
I also have an AppleTV 4K, and I feel that the iTunes-delivered video is superior to Prime video (via the TV's internal app) for rental content- can you comment on that at all? When you are comparing different services, then the defining factor is almost always going to be the service themselves. Netflix, Prime, Vudu, Hulu, iTunes, etc... They all use their own compression rates and codecs for their services. So it is going to look different from one provider to the next. That is a given. The comparison to make is the same content, on the same service, done the same way. Meaning: Have both the ATV & TV wired to your network. Make sure nothing else is using your network at the time (disconnect everything else if you want to be sure). Go to Vudu (as an example, they usually have good video streams for my location). Pick a movie. Stream it on the ATV. Then stream the same movie using Vudu on the TV app. That will give you a good comparison of the two.
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Post 17 made on Saturday December 1, 2018 at 13:23 |
Richie Rich Senior Member |
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On November 30, 2018 at 08:46, highfigh said...
TCL and some Sharp models have Roku built in and ARE the control system, using a Roku remote control. It works just like a normal Roku and just like my Roku, the Spectrum app sucks but the rest work normally. For the money, I think the TCL is a good value and haven't heard that they're dropping like flies. LG Had Roku equipped models as well. Sold and installed a few of them. Every aspect of them was identical to the TCLs (down to the remote, table stands and bezel). I have a TCL Roku tv in my office and it has been a great bang for the buck. I have an appletv hooked to it as well but pretty much only use that for airplay so I have a 3rd monitor (I put blueprints on it when doing proposals). Appletv has the best UI out of all of them, Roku works well, LGs "smart" features look doofy but work ok, Sony's is decent (had to figure it out for a client who insisted on using it on her new OLED), Samsung's Smarthub is utter trash.
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Post 18 made on Saturday December 1, 2018 at 19:50 |
thecapnredfish Senior Member |
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Highfive. There was a recent update. If that box was in a warehouse or on a shelf at your local office it got updated in the field. There is your hour.
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Post 19 made on Sunday December 2, 2018 at 11:37 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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On November 30, 2018 at 10:00, punter16 said...
Reasons for separate streamer:
1) In some instances, it can be very difficult to power cycle the TV when the apps lock up. We came across an installation the other day where there was a 1" border/space around the TV and this made it impossible to unplug the set as their Netflix had locked up. There was probably pretty good access to the circuit breaker. Hoping you didn't install this TV, you'd have to point out that the TV was installed in a way that missed the possible need to pull the plug. (The few times I've looked at TV mounting instructions, they never say a TV should have that little space around it, just for heat/air flow reasons.) 2) Consistency across devices makes it much easier to troubleshoot issues over the phone. Absolutely. This is what I meant when I referred to consistency being an advantage to the installer.
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Post 20 made on Sunday December 2, 2018 at 12:22 |
highfigh Loyal Member |
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On December 1, 2018 at 19:50, thecapnredfish said...
Highfive. There was a recent update. If that box was in a warehouse or on a shelf at your local office it got updated in the field. There is your hour. It was shipped from Ohio. The ones I pick up at the local store work much better.
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Post 21 made on Monday December 3, 2018 at 00:18 |
BrettLee3232 Long Time Member |
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On November 30, 2018 at 19:40, thecapnredfish said...
And coming soon. Spectrum world box with the new guide and Netflix access. Oh boy. Not kidding. I’ve installed 3 of them. Boxes seem to have potential but gosh they are horrible right now. If customer is a previous customer and use to the old interface it’s a nightmare. If they are new then not such a big deal. But every box has issues and I’ve had to call and get them to send multiple hits, constant resetting etc. to get to work. I logged into Netflix on 1 of them but didn’t get a chance to play with it. I prefer the Spectrum app on Roku anyday rather than their cable boxes.
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Post 22 made on Monday December 3, 2018 at 01:05 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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If you're using AVR, separate box is a no-brainer. Even in a stand-alone situations that cost of a separate box is insignificant if it makes programming and user experience better
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Post 23 made on Monday December 3, 2018 at 08:39 |
highfigh Loyal Member |
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On December 3, 2018 at 00:18, BrettLee3232 said...
I prefer the Spectrum app on Roku anyday rather than their cable boxes. I tried it- it was very inconsistent. It would take a long time to start, sometimes hung up and showed the spinning wheel, would restart- it became a no-go and then, a customer had the same experiences. Any time I have a say in the cable box, it's going to be Arris, Cisco or Samsung. It's not worth wasting time with the others but I haven't tried a Spectrum 101 or 201 yet.
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Post 24 made on Monday December 3, 2018 at 10:46 |
BrettLee3232 Long Time Member |
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On December 3, 2018 at 08:39, highfigh said...
I tried it- it was very inconsistent. It would take a long time to start, sometimes hung up and showed the spinning wheel, would restart- it became a no-go and then, a customer had the same experiences.
Any time I have a say in the cable box, it's going to be Arris, Cisco or Samsung. It's not worth wasting time with the others but I haven't tried a Spectrum 101 or 201 yet. I guess I’m lucky in my area. Only issue I’ve had is it disconnected once & customer needed to type in password again. Other than that i have about 100-150 Roku’s installed in the field the past year strictly as a cable box replacement.
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Knowing that Gold went up a few K makes me think "well now I have to do a better job on selling more equipment".
-Me... Jan. 2014 |
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Post 25 made on Monday December 3, 2018 at 11:32 |
tomciara Loyal Member |
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On December 3, 2018 at 10:46, BrettLee3232 said...
I guess I’m lucky in my area. Only issue I’ve had is it disconnected once & customer needed to type in password again. Other than that i have about 100-150 Roku’s installed in the field the past year strictly as a cable box replacement. What are the newer, reliable ROKUs? I use to keep one on hand that had old a/v outputs, and then a ROKU 4. Which ones do you use now, that don't mess with you??
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OP | Post 26 made on Tuesday December 4, 2018 at 06:19 |
crosen Senior Member |
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On December 3, 2018 at 00:18, BrettLee3232 said...
I prefer the Spectrum app on Roku anyday rather than their cable boxes. What is the channel browsing/selection process like from the Roku Spectrum app?
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Post 27 made on Thursday December 6, 2018 at 10:29 |
tomciara Loyal Member |
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On December 3, 2018 at 11:32, tomciara said...
What are the newer, reliable ROKUs? I use to keep one on hand that had old a/v outputs, and then a ROKU 4.
Which ones do you use now, that don't mess with you?? I was wondering the same thing 😄
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Post 28 made on Friday December 7, 2018 at 13:07 |
BrettLee3232 Long Time Member |
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On December 4, 2018 at 06:19, crosen said...
What is the channel browsing/selection process like from the Roku Spectrum app? Not bad once you get over not having number buttons. You have to pull up the guide and scroll to find channel. It moves fast & customers haven’t complained. On December 3, 2018 at 11:32, tomciara said...
What are the newer, reliable ROKUs? I use to keep one on hand that had old a/v outputs, and then a ROKU 4.
Which ones do you use now, that don't mess with you?? I only use the Ultras. 2018 & 2019 with the advanced remote. Maybe it’s just my service area. Minimum Mbps is 50 but usually always over 100. I love the Roku’s 🤷🏼♂️
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Knowing that Gold went up a few K makes me think "well now I have to do a better job on selling more equipment".
-Me... Jan. 2014 |
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Post 29 made on Friday December 7, 2018 at 15:47 |
Mr. Brad Advanced Member |
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On November 30, 2018 at 07:11, jrainey said...
Streaming box for the consistency of the interface alone. +1
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Post 30 made on Friday December 7, 2018 at 19:19 |
edmund Elite Member |
Joined: Posts: | April 2002 13,839 |
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When roku is built in to a tv, what do you lose, a ten key pad. I prefer my roku to be plugged component. My favorite model at this time is 3810 roku stick+.
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