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Analog Stereo Switcher
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Post 1 made on Monday November 26, 2018 at 13:05
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Have an older customer that wants to play his Turntable in, basement, to a room above with Sonos Speakers.

No issue. Line Input on a Sonos Connect. Then he throws out that he also likes to play his CD Collection as well. He has an older low end receiver in the basement w/ a pair of B&W speakers. I was thinking of an Switcher to choose which input (CD PLayer or Turntable, which then feeds into either a Sonos Connect or maybe a Sonos Connect Amp and ditch the receiver entirely. This way he can just manually select which device he wants to stream. Would have to go down to basement to load a CD or put on a record so not a big deal.

Any suggestions of decent Analog audio switcher?
Post 2 made on Monday November 26, 2018 at 13:41
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On November 26, 2018 at 13:05, imt said...
Have an older customer that wants to play his Turntable in, basement, to a room above with Sonos Speakers.

No issue. Line Input on a Sonos Connect. Then he throws out that he also likes to play his CD Collection as well. He has an older low end receiver in the basement w/ a pair of B&W speakers. I was thinking of an Switcher to choose which input (CD PLayer or Turntable, which then feeds into either a Sonos Connect or maybe a Sonos Connect Amp and ditch the receiver entirely. This way he can just manually select which device he wants to stream. Would have to go down to basement to load a CD or put on a record so not a big deal.

Any suggestions of decent Analog audio switcher?

If you put a Connect near the receiver, you're done. Connect to that Sonos when the turntable or CD player start and group the other Sonos devices to that it. You can't just connect the turntable to an audio switch unless it has a phono preamp built in, anyway- might as well keep the receiver or upgrade it. Connect the line out from the Sonos to the receiver so those speakers will play the music and all of the other Sonos will play it after they have been synched to that one.

If they had a Yamaha MusicCast or Denon Heos, they could use a separate phono preamp and be done- both of those have more inputs and if the CD player has a digital out, both can handle that, too.
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Post 3 made on Monday November 26, 2018 at 16:55
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Amazon "AV Switch" take your pick <$20.
And add a phono preamp for the turntable
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Post 4 made on Monday November 26, 2018 at 19:58
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I did that recently and just used a dedicated Connect to give me an additional input.
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Post 5 made on Monday November 26, 2018 at 21:50
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But he needs a swjtcher, too.

The more pieces you add, the less wieldy and the more DIY it looks.

He's familiar with the receiver. Use its line outs. Boom -- done. Phono preamp, switcher, he knows how to use it, and there's not a couple more tiny chassis ready to fall off the shelf because the pull from the RCA cable is twice the weight of the unit.
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Post 6 made on Monday November 26, 2018 at 23:54
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I used to pay my sons to convert CD's onto a NAS.  I split the charge with them 50/50.  It was a nice way for a young kid to make a few extra $.  So if you've got a yougn kid lying around the house, I definitely recommend this route.  Personally, I'd never do it myself.  It takes a long time, based on the amount of CD's...

Then just install the NAS into the network and let him put the CD collection in the attic where it belongs.

Or you could show him how to use Napster or Spotify and be done with it.
Post 7 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 00:02
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How large is the CD collection? He can do his own ripping. Typically, my customers who insist on keeping the CD player will kick the CD tires on day one, then ignore the CD player forever.

I had a retired school teacher buy Sonos, I spent about 20 minutes showing her how to rip. The next day she called -- "done".
Post 8 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 10:48
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On November 27, 2018 at 00:02, buzz said...
How large is the CD collection? He can do his own ripping. Typically, my customers who insist on keeping the CD player will kick the CD tires on day one, then ignore the CD player forever.

I had a retired school teacher buy Sonos, I spent about 20 minutes showing her how to rip. The next day she called -- "done".

Not sure how many of you know if this service, but Murfie is a US company that you ship your CD and vinyl collections to and they will digitize them. You can access them via the App or through Sonos, or download the collection onto a NAS/HDD.

They are also working on the ability to upload music onto your server. You can even allow your music to be shared and make some $ back from the cost of digitizing and storing your digital content on their server.

No I haven't used this service, nor do I know anyone that has, but I just came across this the other day when a customer informed they had a large CD collection that they may want to digitize.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 11:04
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On November 27, 2018 at 10:48, SWOInstaller said...
Not sure how many of you know if this service, but Murfie is a US company that you ship your CD and vinyl collections to and they will digitize them. You can access them via the App or through Sonos, or download the collection onto a NAS/HDD.

They are also working on the ability to upload music onto your server. You can even allow your music to be shared and make some $ back from the cost of digitizing and storing your digital content on their server.

No I haven't used this service, nor do I know anyone that has, but I just came across this the other day when a customer informed they had a large CD collection that they may want to digitize.

I can't imagine that they would attempt to have people ship more than few LPs to them- the cost for even a small collection would be emormous.

How is it legal to allow others to access YOUR music?
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Post 10 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 11:47
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Murfie is a pretty interesting concept.

Base model is to ship them your collection, they add them to a cloud account. You can play from there or download the collection to your own storage. Keeping paying them monthly and they keep the cloud account for streaming and backup.

Then, you can 'sell' your discs on their service. If you buy Tom's CD, they pay Tom something, and add it to your cloud collection and physical collection in their warehouse. (or pay to ship it to you).

Now considering that they're not reripping every copy of Dark Side of the Moon, just checking a box. In essence, one copy of the album could move virtually through hundreds of collections, with nothing more than a couple of dollars changing hands and check boxes clicked, each time it changes hands Murife makes a buck.

Of course the catch is that ther's 400 copies of Dark Side. Yours will probably never be the one 'sold'. Even if they're fair and it's processed based on when added, it could be years before they get around to yours. A little pyramid scheme going on? And pricing for buying is all over the place.
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Post 11 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 12:08
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On November 27, 2018 at 11:04, highfigh said...
How is it legal to allow others to access YOUR music?

How not? Though I never got back all the albums I let people borrow when I was in college.

Do I get to spec the cartridge they have to use, and the turntable's rumble figures?
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Post 12 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 12:15
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You could use sonos amp... (the new one)

Cd player into HDMI ARC input on Sonos Amp (using the sonos adapter gizmo)

Phono into analog audio input on Sonos Amp (use outboard phono preamp if the record player doesn't have it on board.)

Yes, the new sonos amp allows you to use both the HDMI input and the analog input... It shows up as separate sources in the browse list.
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Post 13 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 13:35
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Old receiver? Have record out selector?
OP | Post 14 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 13:58
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So I have to check the receiver to see if it has a record out or any stereo outputs. I know it was very old and very basic. This is why I was thinking about the switcher. Customer is older as well and don't see ripping CD's or the expense happening.

The turntable has a built in preamp. That was the first thing I checked.

Tweetymp4, great idea with the new AMP. Never thought about using the HDMI with the optical to HDMI adapter to get 2 sources.
Post 15 made on Tuesday November 27, 2018 at 15:40
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On November 27, 2018 at 13:58, imt said...

Tweetymp4, great idea with the new AMP. Never thought about using the HDMI with the optical to HDMI adapter to get 2 sources.

The only caveat is the name of the HDMI ARC input might be stuck as TV? I haven’t checked to see if you can give it a custom name.

Last edited by tweetymp4 on November 27, 2018 16:31.
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