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OTA local DVR options - Tivo / AirTV (Sling) by Dish / Amazon Fire Recast
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Post 1 made on Thursday November 22, 2018 at 11:11
1234tech
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Currently using Tivo but trying to get rid of the $150 annual guide fee.

Testing the new Amazon Fire Recast now but very limited functionality in it's first version just released by Amazon.

Saw the AirTV at CEDIA that is based on Sling and works with NetFlix but does not appear to support Amazon Prime.

What is everyone using?
Post 2 made on Thursday November 22, 2018 at 18:24
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I use Apple TV and currently DirecTV now, but their platform is f$cking buggy. All I could access for most of today was A&E. I used Sling for a while, but they do not have Discovery. I ran into very few issues with Sling, it was pretty stable. We watch a bit of Netfiix also on Apple TV and it works fine. It is all my girlfriends kids watch when they are here. No issues to report with Amazon Prime on ATV either.
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Post 3 made on Thursday November 22, 2018 at 21:54
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I've used Sling and Youtube. Neither were as good as the PlayStation Vue app and my AppleTV. Great channel lineup choices and the guide is easy to use. DVR service included!
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Post 4 made on Friday November 23, 2018 at 09:30
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I've used Hulu Live for a while now. I kicked Comcast to the curb finally, with the exception of internet. Overall it's OK - the channel line up works fine, however there are certain programs like UFC fight night where you cannot fast forward through commercials. On the plus side, it makes me less likely to watch TV and do something else more productive. Also, for customers who like PBS, I've yet to find a live TV streaming service that supports the local PBS network.
OP | Post 5 made on Friday November 23, 2018 at 10:42
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For customers who want local and time shift their viewing requiring DVR features, it seems hard to beat local cable TV once you add up all of the gear and streaming services required to replicate cable (not to mention the complexity explaining which service to use for what)....
Post 6 made on Friday November 23, 2018 at 11:17
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Wife and I are very lose to the point of going to nothing but the antenna and streaming with Prime, so the Amazon recast sounds like it might be the way to go.

Paying $1,200.00+ a year to DTV, or more to Spectrum, is getting old (like I am).


My neighbor at the beach uses off air for TV, and has no internet at all. That actually doesn't sound all that bad, in some ways.
Post 7 made on Friday November 23, 2018 at 15:59
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On November 23, 2018 at 09:30, andrewinboulder said...
I've used Hulu Live for a while now. I kicked Comcast to the curb finally, with the exception of internet. Overall it's OK - the channel line up works fine, however there are certain programs like UFC fight night where you cannot fast forward through commercials. On the plus side, it makes me less likely to watch TV and do something else more productive. Also, for customers who like PBS, I've yet to find a live TV streaming service that supports the local PBS network.

PBS depends on the market. Minneapolis/St Paul has local PBS apps for Roku or Apple. (in addition to the national PBS app)
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Post 8 made on Friday November 23, 2018 at 16:01
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For OTA DVR, I still think TiVo OTA is the way to go. What is it...$349 for the box with lifetime service? Add minis at other TVs if you have the need.

I have TiVo and Hulu Live. The user experience with TiVo is hands down better.
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Post 9 made on Saturday November 24, 2018 at 11:21
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For OTA, Channel Master has a DVR.
[Link: channelmaster.com]

I use an older DVR from them for my antenna.
Post 10 made on Saturday November 24, 2018 at 11:23
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On November 23, 2018 at 16:01, Audiophiliac said...
For OTA DVR, I still think TiVo OTA is the way to go. What is it...$349 for the box with lifetime service? Add minis at other TVs if you have the need.

I have TiVo and Hulu Live. The user experience with TiVo is hands down better.

Agreed. The Hulu Live interface is odd. It's especially annoying that the on screen guide does not fill out like a normal cable TV guide - it only shows the line that you're on. Who the F thought that was a good idea?
Post 11 made on Saturday November 24, 2018 at 11:31
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On November 23, 2018 at 10:42, 1234tech said...
For customers who want local and time shift their viewing requiring DVR features, it seems hard to beat local cable TV once you add up all of the gear and streaming services required to replicate cable (not to mention the complexity explaining which service to use for what)....

I agree but it's way closer to being a real end solution now. For me, I just wanted to kick Comcast in the balls for all those years when the bill was bigger than they quoted me (because the love to leave out all the taxes and fees on the quote), and then their propensity to raise the bill, requiring the "I'd like cancel" phone call.

With streaming services, it's one price and it doesn't change. No BS (so far any way).

Comcast is going to pay for their manipulations of invoicing. They've built up a huge resentment from customers over the years over their billing. When I have customers that cut the cord in favor of streaming service, it's like their laughing while they through the old Comcast gear in a bon fire (return the gear LOL).
Post 12 made on Saturday November 24, 2018 at 11:48
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With all this talk about OTA, does anyone have suggestions for a really tall antenna? I have a few obstacles between myself and the broadcasting towers.
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Post 13 made on Saturday November 24, 2018 at 12:08
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On November 24, 2018 at 11:48, roddymcg said...
With all this talk about OTA, does anyone have suggestions for a really tall antenna? I have a few obstacles between myself and the broadcasting towers.

Weather balloon?
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Post 14 made on Saturday November 24, 2018 at 12:47
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On November 24, 2018 at 11:48, roddymcg said...
With all this talk about OTA, does anyone have suggestions for a really tall antenna? I have a few obstacles between myself and the broadcasting towers.

I bet there are some deals to be had on old CB radio towers. Problem is taking one down, transporting it, and then putting it up.
Post 15 made on Sunday November 25, 2018 at 09:33
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On November 24, 2018 at 11:21, sirroundsound said...
For OTA, Channel Master has a DVR.
[Link: channelmaster.com]

I use an older DVR from them for my antenna.

I did a short review over on IP about that thing. It isn't like the old CM DVR box, this new one is nothing more than an Android TV with a tuner and the CM tuner app. And it SUCKS BALLS!!!
It is still in my rack but only because it is past the return policy. And I haven't been able to bring myself to toss it in the garbage yet. It however is not getting used by anyone in my house right now.


I would agree with others; the TiVo OTA is still the best option for antenna users, even thou it has the highest upfront costs. It has the best hardware and the lifetime subscription means you don't have to think about it. Or eventually start paying to much money for the privilege, years down the road.
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