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DirecTV over fiber with Mocca adapter
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Topic: | DirecTV over fiber with Mocca adapter This thread has 17 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Monday November 12, 2018 at 15:47 |
Fins Elite Member |
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I have a commercial project with currently 12 buildings, where the DTV service is supplied by one dish, then its networked to each building with fiber. At each building the fiber converts back to coax, which feeds a 16 way SWM, that then can feed two of the 8way SWM splitters. All the boxes are H25's. If I put a Mocca at one receiver, will it send network to all boxes? Or would I need to put a Mocca on each 8way splitter?
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Post 2 made on Monday November 12, 2018 at 16:05 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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This question comes down to "is there such a thing as a Mocca signal? and "does the SWM16 pass Mocca signals?" The answers are no and no. You're not likely to find much information on this. First, you mean MoCA. Next, some podiatry sites use the term MOCA, which makes this hard to look up regarding DirecTV. Second, DirecTV always refers to MoCa as DECA. Google's not THAT good! And this is why I'm such a stickler about calling things by their names. Now, searching for info about SWM and DECA -- From [Link: dbstalk.com]: The SWiM-16 dual outputs are bridged for DECA, so it passes between them. Green labeled splitters also pass DECA between outputs. The rest of that is worth reading, too. I think that means the answer to your questions are "If I put a DECA at one receiver, will it send network to all boxes?" and "Or would I need to put a DECA on each 8way splitter? and the answers are YES and NO.
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OP | Post 3 made on Monday November 12, 2018 at 17:41 |
Fins Elite Member |
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I dont give a f*&^%ing rats ass how its spelled. A simple no it wont work was all I needed.
Holy mother @&^%er!
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Post 4 made on Tuesday November 13, 2018 at 09:21 |
thecapnredfish Senior Member |
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Post 5 made on Tuesday November 13, 2018 at 15:40 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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You completely missed the fact that the information I found TELLS YOU that DECA signals will go from one of the SWM16's outputs to the other one. It could be wrong. That's why I provided links.
And it's not a matter of how it's spelled. It's a matter of it not being possible to find information on what you want to do if you look up something else. I thought you'd want to be able to look up more information on it, since DECA is not exactly MoCA.
What information on carburetors is going to help you when you have a fuel injector problem? I mean, hey, it's gas and air, right?
On the other hand, maybe you really are asking if you can use MoCA equipment on a SWM system. In that case, the answer would be NO.
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Post 6 made on Tuesday November 13, 2018 at 16:16 |
thecapnredfish Senior Member |
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Still awesome responses from both parties.
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Post 7 made on Tuesday November 13, 2018 at 17:37 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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On November 13, 2018 at 15:40, Ernie Gilman said...
What information on carburetors is going to help you when you have a fuel injector problem? I mean, hey, it's gas and air, right? Actually it’s gasoline and air. The word “gas” is defined as an airlike fluid substance which expands freely to fill any space available, irrespective of its quantity. So basically you just wrote gas and gas, or air and air. KOT
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Post 8 made on Wednesday November 14, 2018 at 02:03 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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Within the context of devices that use gasoline, for instance carburetors and fuel injection systems, "gas" is pretty much understood to mean gasoline (in the US). When's the last time you told someone you were going to the gasoline station? You said gas station, didn't you?
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OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 14:04 |
Fins Elite Member |
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On November 13, 2018 at 15:40, Ernie Gilman said...
You completely missed the fact that the information I found TELLS YOU that DECA signals will go from one of the SWM16's outputs to the other one. It could be wrong. That's why I provided links.
And it's not a matter of how it's spelled. It's a matter of it not being possible to find information on what you want to do if you look up something else. I thought you'd want to be able to look up more information on it, since DECA is not exactly MoCA.
What information on carburetors is going to help you when you have a fuel injector problem? I mean, hey, it's gas and air, right?
On the other hand, maybe you really are asking if you can use MoCA equipment on a SWM system. In that case, the answer would be NO. I’m back on this project and decided to give this another look. I just realized, with all the rambling, you completely missed the question. I want to know if the network will go back down stream between buildings to another SMW16. Not just between two ports on the same SWM16
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Post 10 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 14:30 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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Yes, I did. When you asked On November 12, 2018 at 15:47, Fins said...
...At each building the fiber converts back to coax, which feeds a 16 way SWM, that then can feed two of the 8way SWM splitters. All the boxes are H25's. If I put a Mocca at one receiver, will it send network to all boxes? Or would I need to put a Mocca on each 8way splitter? This looked like a question about whether you had to put a DECA device on each 8-way splitter on a SWM16, not the larger question of whether that one DECA device would also backfeed all of the SWM16s through the fiber. Sorry. I have no idea. On December 12, 2018 at 14:04, Fins said...
...I want to know if the network will go back down stream between buildings to another SMW16. Not just between two ports on the same SWM16 Just in general, it may be helpful to think of the way that signal might go as being upstream rather than downstream. Typically downstream would be thought of as from the dish to the receivers.
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Post 11 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 15:37 |
Brad Humphrey Super Member |
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No, the DECA will not pass thru the 'sat' ports. It will only work on the SWM16's local ports.
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Post 12 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 15:53 |
Brad Humphrey Super Member |
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On November 14, 2018 at 02:03, Ernie Gilman said...
Within the context of devices that use gasoline, for instance carburetors and fuel injection systems, "gas" is pretty much understood to mean gasoline (in the US). When's the last time you told someone you were going to the gasoline station? You said gas station, didn't you? Just like when someone means DECA when talking about DirecTV, even though they said MoCA (or mocca). Because MoCA doesn't work on DirecTV. Just like DECA can't work on CableTV (not without custom notch filters, which would also impact the operation of the joined system). And there are natural gas automobiles! So maybe one does literally mean 'gas' and not gasoline. Who knows.... maybe he really was referring to the building he was working on - MOCCA (Museum of Contemporary Canadian Art). There is an inherent understanding that takes place in all human languages. If an individual can not comprehend the need to interpret a communication as it is taking place. Then they are just as lost as another person trying to understand a communication that severely lacked enough information to understand. This is why people get upset with you Ernie. Because we know you are not that lost and are just trolling.
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Post 13 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 17:26 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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You are citing reasons for talking inaccurately. Technical things are better understood and accomplished when things are described accurately. You're right about assumptions that people make. But people also misunderstand every day. I'm for talking clearly, if possible, with the right terms.
Sure, someone dealing with only automobiles and gasoline can say "gas" and everyone knows he's talking about gasoline. But if someone is designing a vehicle and says gas, everyone would do well to know whether it's gasoline or natural gas.
Fins was designing something from the ground up and said he'd use MoCa. I hope not. That's about all.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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Post 14 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 17:30 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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I came back here just now not to make that last comment, but to suggest calling Solid Signal or Holland Electronics if there are still any questions.
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A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw |
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Post 15 made on Wednesday December 12, 2018 at 19:11 |
Ernie Gilman Yes, That Ernie! |
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Then this happened in another thread: On December 12, 2018 at 18:21, davidcasemore said...
Actually, fresh water is worse than salt water if you are IN the water, like a swimmer. This is because fresh water is a poorer conductor of electricity than saltwater is, leading to the current flowing through the path of least resistance - the body of the swimmer. (although people always say "current follows the path of least resistance", the statement should really be that current follows all paths in inverse proportion to the resistance of the path). So if you were about to jump into the water (designing something from the start), do you want to know that electricity follows the path of least resistance, or that it follows all paths in inverse proportion to the resistance of the path? Accepting the first statement might kill you, thinking once you have the actual facts might save your life.
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