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What is the longest CAT-6 run that you would you do without worrying if it's going to work or not?
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Post 16 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 21:04
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Once you get the hang of it, terminating Clearline is faster than terminating CAT cable — and it only takes a few practice connections to get the hang of it.

Run some fiber along with the CAT and leave the fiber “dark” if you like. Eventually, you’ll be glad that you have the fiber.

I also recommend getting the fiber testing kit — as I’m sure that you have a CAT testing kit for copper.
Post 17 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 22:53
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On October 22, 2018 at 19:12, ichbinbose said...
Use clearline fiber. It’s easy to terminate

Right, but do they have direct burial??
Post 18 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 01:01
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On October 22, 2018 at 22:53, Ranger Home said...
Right, but do they have direct burial??

LMGTFY
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Post 19 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 01:31
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Just picked up a dsx5000 and really nerding out about this stuff. TIA compliance, permanent link, etc. The certifiers are picky and it need to be perfect especially the further you go.

Also have another project coming up going building to building and will be running fiber there. Good thread.
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Post 20 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 02:07
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On October 22, 2018 at 14:49, buzz said...
We are assuming that this is for Ethernet service?

Rightee-oh. That should have been the second post. We can make all the assumptions we want to, but he really should just tell us.

If this were for plain old telephone service, I'd limit it to two miles. I'm just sayin,' every bandwidth has its length limits, and the higher the bandwidth, the lower the maximum distance with guaranteed performance.
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Post 21 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 05:43
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On October 22, 2018 at 15:06, Techsquad said...
very good point. I thought about that... however this is actually a big house and a remote guest house, I asked the developer and all the power from Guest house comes from the main panel (same phase ) of the main house. i am studying the possibility of replacing copper to fiber... but i think its not going to be feasible =(

You're working with a good electrician on this, right?
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 22 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 08:18
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On October 22, 2018 at 15:06, Techsquad said...
very good point. I thought about that... however this is actually a big house and a remote guest house, I asked the developer and all the power from Guest house comes from the main panel (same phase ) of the main house. i am studying the possibility of replacing copper to fiber... but i think its not going to be feasible =(

I just ran the numbers for my job. Even if I use the premade stuff that was linked in a post it only comes out to 77 cents a foot it is still very feasible. (2 strand LC connectors)

I’ve done clearline before but have yet to connect two outbuildings with it. I think I’m just going to go the route of premade fiber for this one!
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OP | Post 23 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 08:56
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On October 23, 2018 at 08:18, 3PedalMINI said...
I just ran the numbers for my job. Even if I use the premade stuff that was linked in a post it only comes out to 77 cents a foot it is still very feasible. (2 strand LC connectors)

I’ve done clearline before but have yet to connect two outbuildings with it. I think I’m just going to go the route of premade fiber for this one!

I saw Clearline videos, I am not 100% ok on doing that stuff =( specially overseas, where i dont have resources and time! I guess i will go with the lanshack this time and train on the clearline home.
Post 24 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 08:59
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How much time are you going to have to troubleshoot the copper-based issues that people have raised here?
Post 25 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 09:21
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On October 23, 2018 at 08:56, Techsquad said...
I saw Clearline videos, I am not 100% ok on doing that stuff =( specially overseas, where i dont have resources and time! I guess i will go with the lanshack this time and train on the clearline home.

A couple of those videos are misleading and might be scary. How much lead time do you have? If you are near a local Clearline rep, I'm sure that they will be able to offer some training and build your confidence. Allocate a couple hours if you are a slow learner.

If you decide to use prefabricated cables, have the local site people pull a cloth tape through the conduit. These tapes are calibrated and you'll be able to know the exact length of prefab cable needed. This is how the FIOS installers handle the drop in conduit. An outside team prepares everything and pulls the tape. The inside crew knows which optical cable to bring, then uses the pull tape for plug and play.
OP | Post 26 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 10:19
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On October 23, 2018 at 08:59, osiris said...
How much time are you going to have to troubleshoot the copper-based issues that people have raised here?

I am definitely not Using copper anymore after i found out about Clearline and Preterminated fiber from you guys. But I leaning to the preterminated one just beacuse 1) my first time with fiber 2) limited on-site time 3) overseas
OP | Post 27 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 10:22
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On October 23, 2018 at 09:21, buzz said...
A couple of those videos are misleading and might be scary. How much lead time do you have? If you are near a local Clearline rep, I'm sure that they will be able to offer some training and build your confidence. Allocate a couple hours if you are a slow learner.

If you decide to use prefabricated cables, have the local site people pull a cloth tape through the conduit. These tapes are calibrated and you'll be able to know the exact length of prefab cable needed. This is how the FIOS installers handle the drop in conduit. An outside team prepares everything and pulls the tape. The inside crew knows which optical cable to bring, then uses the pull tape for plug and play.

They actually ran cat-6 already, and the length markings on the cable itself can tell us the exact length. it's a 200 meter straight shot with a few J-boxes in the middle. should be pretty easy to use the exisiting cat-6 and pull the fiber ( i guess )
Post 28 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 11:42
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On October 22, 2018 at 16:14, SB Smarthomes said...
Over the years I've done quite a few CAT5e/CAT6 cables near the 100M/330ft distance limitation without issue.

Friday I pulled CAT5e out to an exterior WAP location (PoE) that showed 308ft on the tester and will be 313ft total with the patch cable.

WAP will be installed sometime this week...

Sounds similar to a job I did a couple of years ago.
300-310ft run of Cat5e with a POE powered WAP at the end.
WAP fired up without issue but started occasionally blinking out after a few weeks. Connectivity was fine with a non POE device at the end of the line, was just losing power. Wound up having to put a local POE injector near the AP, no issues after that.
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Post 29 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 12:49
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On October 23, 2018 at 01:01, Mario said...
LMGTFY
[Link: cleerlinefiber.com]

Thanks. I had to google "LMGTFY" lol.
Post 30 made on Tuesday October 23, 2018 at 15:46
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Where can we buy Cleerline?

edit: LMGTFY,,,,,Blackwire carries it.
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