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What is the longest CAT-6 run that you would you do without worrying if it's going to work or not?
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Post 1 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 14:02
Techsquad
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Considering top quality cable that it will be in a pipe underground from building A to building B without power interference or anything like that. TIA guys.
Post 2 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 14:13
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90 meters, which is what the TIA defines as the max permanent link length.
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Post 3 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 14:20
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What he said!
With damn good termination!
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Post 4 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 14:49
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We are assuming that this is for Ethernet service?
Post 5 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 14:50
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An copper from building A to building B is going to be a problem. The ground differential between the 2 buildings will take out ports on your switches over time. Do fiber.
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OP | Post 6 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 15:06
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On October 22, 2018 at 14:50, jrainey said...
An copper from building A to building B is going to be a problem. The ground differential between the 2 buildings will take out ports on your switches over time. Do fiber.

very good point. I thought about that... however this is actually a big house and a remote guest house, I asked the developer and all the power from Guest house comes from the main panel (same phase ) of the main house. i am studying the possibility of replacing copper to fiber... but i think its not going to be feasible =(
Post 7 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 16:12
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On October 22, 2018 at 15:06, Techsquad said...
very good point. I thought about that... however this is actually a big house and a remote guest house, I asked the developer and all the power from Guest house comes from the main panel (same phase ) of the main house. i am studying the possibility of replacing copper to fiber... but i think its not going to be feasible =(

Fiber with Media Convertors is your very best choice here.
It will resolve grounding issues, distance and provide a much better road to the future.
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Post 8 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 16:13
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On October 22, 2018 at 14:50, jrainey said...
An copper from building A to building B is going to be a problem. The ground differential between the 2 buildings will take out ports on your switches over time. Do fiber.

This. anytime going across buildings, you need to break the ground.
Post 9 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 16:13
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On October 22, 2018 at 15:06, Techsquad said...
very good point. I thought about that... however this is actually a big house and a remote guest house, I asked the developer and all the power from Guest house comes from the main panel (same phase ) of the main house. i am studying the possibility of replacing copper to fiber... but i think its not going to be feasible =(

But does it use the same Ground?
Post 10 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 16:14
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Over the years I've done quite a few CAT5e/CAT6 cables near the 100M/330ft distance limitation without issue.

Friday I pulled CAT5e out to an exterior WAP location (PoE) that showed 308ft on the tester and will be 313ft total with the patch cable.

WAP will be installed sometime this week...
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Post 11 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 16:50
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On October 22, 2018 at 14:02, Techsquad said...
Considering top quality cable that it will be in a pipe underground from building A to building B without power interference or anything like that. TIA guys.

1. Underground conduit is considered a wet location by the NEC. Therefore you need to use a Cat6 cable that is rated for wet locations.

2. Use fiber instead.

3. If you insist on using copper, then install an appropriate surge protector at both ends of the Cat6 right at the point it leaves/enters the structures.
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Post 12 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 18:01
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Timely Post....What's the favorite underground conduit friendly fiber?
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Post 13 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 18:21
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Why would running fiber vs copper not be "feasible"? Labor is the same no? Must be referring to costs? Show them its cheaper in the long run. Remind them how cat want from cat3 to cat7. Show them copper is not planning for the future.

And, what 3P ask. I need some underground fiber now as well. And, need direct burial, no conduit. Surely that can be done as its one in road work all the time.
OP | Post 14 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 18:46
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On October 22, 2018 at 18:21, Ranger Home said...
Why would running fiber vs copper not be "feasible"? Labor is the same no? Must be referring to costs? Show them its cheaper in the long run. Remind them how cat want from cat3 to cat7. Show them copper is not planning for the future.

And, what 3P ask. I need some underground fiber now as well. And, need direct burial, no conduit. Surely that can be done as its one in road work all the time.

Ranger, this is a project overseas, in like a huge farm house. i am flying everything from the US, even the stupidest thing ever... I sent cables, low voltage boxes etc, and the developer labor is running these cables according to my plans. So finding someone to terminate fiber there is impossible... but i just found these guys on the web: www.lanshack.com where you choose the type, lenght, etc and theu send you a reel of pre-terminated fiber ready to pull. that might work. and it's not ridiculously expensive as I thought. have you worked with pre terminated fiber cables before?
Post 15 made on Monday October 22, 2018 at 19:12
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Use clearline fiber. It’s easy to terminate
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