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OT: Tricks I already should know: getting the internet service discount past two years
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Post 16 made on Tuesday October 2, 2018 at 22:44
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On October 2, 2018 at 21:37, Ernie Gilman said...
We wanted an actual phone line, the kind that stays on when the internet dies. "As long as the internet service is up" is not the kind we wanted.

You’ll need a copper phone line for that. In my area, once a house goes FIOS, copper is no longer available.
OP | Post 17 made on Tuesday October 2, 2018 at 23:51
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We have a copper line.
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Post 18 made on Wednesday October 3, 2018 at 00:03
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When we lived in Ca in a rental it had copper, but the neighborhood went Fios and nobody would hook up the land line, tried for a year.
Post 19 made on Wednesday October 3, 2018 at 12:44
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On October 2, 2018 at 23:51, Ernie Gilman said...
We have a copper line.

I know, in case of a big earthquake, the Internet will be down, and you want to be able to call somebody on an old-fashioned telephone line. Time to rethink this.

Up north from you, AT&T charged me $45 a month for my home phone line, which I had since 1979. My brother tried Ooma, and it worked well for him, so I went for it. Ported my number over, so I still have the same phone number. It worked flawlessly for a year, and saved me $500. The savings continue.

After feeling comfortable with my home phone switched, I also switched my business phone number, which I had since 1976. For that, I was paying $75 per month. Ported that number over so my service is uninterrupted. Now I save $800 per year on that line.

If I keep saving $1300 per year, maybe able to retire! But seriously, we're moving towards a cell/internet phone based world, and unless you are drowning in cash, I can't see any point in doing what you are doing.

Many of our clients moving into the new homes do not even have copper based phone lines anymore. Everything cell phone.

Since I am out in the field, my business phone has a message on it encouraging them to call my cell phone number, so I am moving away from dependence on the business number. I get just a couple actual messages a week on the business line.
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OP | Post 20 made on Wednesday October 3, 2018 at 17:47
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On October 3, 2018 at 12:44, tomciara said...
I know, in case of a big earthquake, the Internet will be down, and you want to be able to call somebody on an old-fashioned telephone line. Time to rethink this.

This is the doomsday scenario, but it's time to rethink this because... because if that's what I'm thinking, well, modern earthquakes don't do that any more?

Up north from you, AT&T charged me $45 a month for my home phone line, which I had since 1979. My brother tried Ooma, and it worked well for him, so I went for it. Ported my number over, so I still have the same phone number. It worked flawlessly for a year, and saved me $500. The savings continue.

Okay, but...
After feeling comfortable with my home phone switched, I also switched my business phone number, which I had since 1976. For that, I was paying $75 per month. Ported that number over so my service is uninterrupted. Now I save $800 per year on that line.

Wait... That's $66.666 per month, so Ooma costs you $75 - $66.666 = $8.33 per month. (And your home Ooma is $3.33 per month?) Did I get that right?

If I keep saving $1300 per year, maybe able to retire! But seriously, we're moving towards a cell/internet phone based world, and unless you are drowning in cash, I can't see any point in doing what you are doing.

Call me a luddite, but there's value in being able to do things that don't depend on high technology. Making phone calls is probably one of those things.

I can't quite forget this:
Air Canada said yesterday that its Boeing 767 jet ran out of fuel in midflight last week because of two mistakes in figuring the fuel supply of the airline's first aircraft to use metric measurements.

After both engines lost their power, the pilots made what is now thought to be the first successful emergency ''dead stick'' landing of a commercial jetliner.

This was long before Sully. This was a guy who was able to land a commercial jet that was dropping like a rock, and in fact he almost overshot the abandoned runway they were lucky enough to find in their path. He was credited with being able to do this only because he spent his weekends training people how to operate gliders.
Many of our clients moving into the new homes do not even have copper based phone lines anymore. Everything cell phone.

Mine, too, but still....
Since I am out in the field, my business phone has a message on it encouraging them to call my cell phone number, so I am moving away from dependence on the business number. I get just a couple actual messages a week on the business line.

I really do have to look into Ooma at the prices you imply!
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 21 made on Thursday October 4, 2018 at 03:26
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Simple.

Buy the device on Amazon.
Set it up.
No Ooma fees, only about $4.20 in regulatory fees per line per month.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 22 made on Thursday October 4, 2018 at 04:51
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Ernie,

i understand your love of copper and that the POT utility is usually the last man standing after some sort of disaster, but in your earthquake prone area, if the copper is broken, it doesn't matter how stable the central office might be. Also, be careful to keep a really old handset around because the newer junk probably needs batteries or a charger. (you could use a solar charger)

On the plus side for the cell network, a heard of COW's could be brought in to temporarily support an area that was disrupted, but there is a finite number of COW's available for redeployment. Of course, this assumes that the users have some means of keeping their phones charged.
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