Maybe they are reading this thread.....

Sonos Unleashes Sonance In-Wall and Outdoor Speakers; Launches Real Dealer Program

[Link: cepro.com]

So we all have to abandon Sonance now too?

“Our goal isn’t to get these into a bunch of consumer hands,” said Sonos director of business development Ryan Taylor, during a press preview last month.
“We’re not trying to drive direct sales of in-ceiling speakers.”

What a load of BS... the goal is to get these into as many bunches of hands as possible. The dude is talking straight outa his ass.

Sad to see Sonance whore out like this.

If you are doing a real dealer program and catering to dealers, you would never undercut them, or direct market your client’s by mining their email addresses.

Since they have marketing our clients as one of their primary sales focus, they have to do this dog and pony show, talking up their dealer focus, respect the rack, bla bla bla. They use our terms but redefine them.

It’s the pretend part that irks me the most. It’s like telling us that we are her only boyfriend, while the other boyfriend is on the cell phone and they’re planning their next date.

Yet another thread highlighting the importance of business education in our industry.....

Sure. If that's your business model. Awesome. Personally the lack of ability to predict wifi coverage or dangling cables doesn't work for me. To make money on these jobs you have to sell it sight unseen. $150 for a quick install is cool as long as you don't have to do a site visit first or return something because the client didn't understand something completely. Again, if that's their market and they laid that all out, then great. Get money. I'm in this because I enjoy delivering elite systems, focusing on details, and happy life time customers. Not $150

One should be clear in one’s own mind about which business you want to operate. Take security/alarm or the cable company, for example: sure, there is an installation component, but they are really in the RMI business.

Ultimately, Sonos will need to change their model because, as the market saturates, the buy once, free support forever, model fails.

Has anyone used VSSL products?

That is what I thought too. But then why is it being sold on Sonos's own website and is available to the general public now and can have delivery as early as tomorrow.

Aren't they Control 4's client's, if things go bad between you and Control 4, Control 4 keeps the client regardless of how the lead was obtained?

Gold dealers get early access.

I am not gold and have 2 of them sitting here waiting for jobs.

I am not talking about being avail on the Sonos site for dealers.

I mean they are avail on the regular consumer site to purchase by consumers.

So they're available for joe blow... but not for the 'gold' integrators.
But actually, they are, but they aren't.

Excellent.
It has gone well.

We are not a C4 dealer, but I’ve talked with them a few times. If a dealer is terminated for some reason, including not meeting their quotas, C4 keeps all of the clients. This is much too risky for me.

If you own a GMC car are you GMC s client or the dealer you bought the car from?