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Post 31 made on Monday August 27, 2018 at 22:07
buzz
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On August 27, 2018 at 10:58, tomciara said...
You should know to ignore him. Look what you started.

Sorry, I didn’t think that the gun was loaded.
Post 32 made on Monday August 27, 2018 at 22:37
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On August 27, 2018 at 19:44, GotGame said...
My modem was taken out last night. It is in an outdoor location and serves the purpose of taking the hit instead of the rest of my house. It succeeded.

Wild speculation rampant in this forum. If a surge was incoming to a modem, then at the exact same time, that current was also outgoing destructively into things attached to that modem. It is called electricity (as taught in elementary school science).

How does a modem's 2 cm parts block what three miles of sky cannot? That modem protection is wild speculation But again, most here believe such fables. Then post insults rather than one fact that explains what happened.

If a surge is incoming to a modem, that current is simultaneously outgoing from that modem. Nothing blocks a surge by failing. As in nothing. But a scam is easily promoted when one forgets simple science or believes fables from others who only learned to demean.

Classic damage is a surge incoming on AC mains. Is everything damaged? Of course not. Again, it is called electricity. Only damaged are items that also make a best outgoing path to earth. Modem is a classic victim or a surge that was all but invited inside.

A tiny surge on AC mains found a best outgoing path to earth destructively via a modem. Then voltage did not increase to blow through anything else. That modem earthed a surge. It cannot and did not block a surge.

A classic example of ignorance is Brad Humphrey. If anything posted was wrong, then he could say what it is - and why. He doesn't because he cannot. Those most easily brainwashed by advertising will insult so as to deny how easily they were manipulated.

Your telco CO suffers about 100 surges with each storm. How often is your town without phones for four days while they replace that computer? Never? Of course. Posted is what a homeowner installs for about $1 per appliance to have same protection. Since direct lightning strikes (or another anomaly) without damage is routine only when one properly earths a 'whole house' solution.

Only a fool believes some magic box adjacent to an appliance protects from any typically destructive surge. Thenl a $3 power strip with some five cent protector parts can sell for $25 or $100. One can learn from someone who was doing this stuff even 40 years ago. Others only post their emotions to remain safely brainwashed.

A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Protection for everything is about $1 per protected appliance. Then hundreds of thousands of joules do no damage. Even that modem would not be damaged. Learn from over 100 years of well proven science. Ignore other who prove knowledge by only posting insults.
Post 33 made on Monday August 27, 2018 at 23:41
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Say it ain't so
Post 34 made on Monday August 27, 2018 at 23:55
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Did you hear that . . .  ah, must have been the wind.
Post 35 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 00:12
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On August 27, 2018 at 23:55, Brad Humphrey said...
Did you hear that . . .  ah, must have been the wind.

Think it was Westom passing gas
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 36 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 08:14
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There is another forum that I read where one of the regulars is a religious zealot that goes on long drawn out posts about how everyone else throughout time has gotten the message from God wrong except for him, and this one preacher he follows. I just realized Westom's posts are the same thing.

On a different note, lets all take just a moment and be thankful I was sober last night. Otherwise this thread would look like an Amtrak catastrophe right now.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 37 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 08:20
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On August 28, 2018 at 08:14, Fins said...
On a different note, lets all take just a moment and be thankful I was sober last night.

And still posting what is irrelevant. That picture is not typical of a lightning strike. It is typical of something potentially more destructive - a follow-through current.
Post 38 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 08:50
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On August 28, 2018 at 08:20, westom said...
- a "follow-through current".

Is this like when the Weather Channel started naming winter storms?
Post 39 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 12:33
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A follow through current? Now that is some funny stuff.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
OP | Post 40 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 12:46
Ernie Gilman
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I can't find any reference on the internet to follow-through current, but a National Geographic article starts with this:
Contrary to the common expression, lightning can and often does strike the same place twice.

That completely explains westom's writing.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 41 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 12:50
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On August 28, 2018 at 08:14, Fins said...
On a different note, lets all take just a moment and be thankful I was sober last night.

+1

And an entire community is behind you!
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
OP | Post 42 made on Tuesday August 28, 2018 at 12:59
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+1 from here, too.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
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Post 43 made on Wednesday August 29, 2018 at 10:23
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On August 28, 2018 at 12:46, Ernie Gilman said...
I can't find any reference on the internet to follow-through current,

Richard Harrison discusses his vast experience in broadcasting stations:
None of these stations ever suffered lightning damage when taking many direct hits during every year. In fact they only dropped from the air for an instant, to extinguish any follow-through arcing when hit, and were returned to the air automatically following an arc kill.

Colin Baliss in his engineering book (who wastes time reading reality):
Although lightning strikes have impressive voltage and current values (typically hundreds to thousands of kV and 10-100 kA) the energy content of the discharge is relatively low and most of the damage to power plant is caused by 'power follow-through current'.

Apparently we must be wrong because all this only comes from over 100 years of well proven science; not from mockery and emotions.
Post 44 made on Wednesday August 29, 2018 at 14:44
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Richard Harrison? Like from Pawn Stars! WTH does he know about electrical systems and surge damage.

Colin Baliss? Who the hell is that? I can't even find a name matching that in Poland. But you say he's an engineer. Well that explains it kid, see most of us on this forum are much older and have decades experience dealing with real world problems. And in that time, most of us have learned the hard way that "engineers" are some of the stupidest, dumbest, idiotic individuals to walk this Earth. And are currently responsible for 87.3%* of the world's problems.

* as figured out by an engineer

By the way - 6th grade math - 6kV * 10kA is 60MW of energy (which is actually a pretty weak strike). Old Colin is right, not much energy there at all... *rolls eyes*
OP | Post 45 made on Wednesday August 29, 2018 at 15:55
Ernie Gilman
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westom, our resident KOOK,* has tried to teach us something and we refuse to learn from him.

Yeah, someone spells Bayliss without the Y... we're likely to stop following right there. I mean, does Baliss know Om's law? Does he know how many Cool Ohms per Fortnite it takes to make a Ferret?


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