I believe that neither Snap or J+P products support 4K HDR60 4:4:4 so I'm sticking to Crestron DM for the time being...

Big demand for this? What sources are you using for these systems?

Have you ever looked at a display and said, jeez, this is only 4.4.2, 4.4.4 would look way better.

Not trying to be a smart ass, it just seems like one of those specs that the average user will never notice. Am I ignorant?

Not at all, that's just reality. Not one customer of mine cares about it.

I'd say I only have one that it would matter, but he uses all local devices in his theater, so it doesn't really matter anyway.

Can you help me get some context on this statement.

What are the stats on JAP?

What stats are currently seen with traditional HDMI?

What sources are connected?

Does Crestron have HDMI 2.1 or displayport available in their DM units? Seeing as 4K60 HDR at 4:4:4 is 22 gbps, HDMI 2.0 ain't going to cut it.

Reading the specs on their DMC-4KZ-HD it doesn't support it, unless you want 8 bit HDR.

The only source (I can think of) that would output that native would be a PC.

Unless it's changed, JAP won't do 4K60 HDR even at 4:2:0. That can be a problem for people with consoles that can output that.

that is what i meant! in a less "in your face" kind of way.

When designing systems we recommend to always to leave a few ports extra for inputs and outputs. This makes it easy to add parts later so nothing has to be reprogrammed. Also if you think the system will expand on a much larger scale then we recommend using stackable switches right at the start.

We have drivers for URC which allow you to do any sized stacked system as URC is capped at 32x32 with their module. These are custom made to match your configuration.

We also have a Savant profile tool that creates a matching profile.

We offer things like Control4 OSD Volume drivers, video wall icon sets and commercial audio drivers that are all free with your J+P purchase.

The configuration is only part of what we offer. Ensuring you have a proper system design from the start is the first step we do. The programming is designed to save time and make things plug and play. This allows dealers to send almost any level tech to a job site to do an installation. I appreciate your opinion how ever I disagree that it scares people away. Managed switches scare a lot of people and when you take all the scary stuff away and make it super easy it brings more people into the mix. We are happy to even log into your computer and walk you through JAD config if you want to do it yourself.

We pride our selves on the fact that you can you email at 8 PM on a Friday and get a reply with in a few minutes for questions not only on your video system but the actual automation platform you are using as well. From start to finish you have someone who is reliable to design your system and not just sell you the most expensive parts, program it and ensure you have all of the tools, modules and add ons to have a successful installation.

JAP needed some real competition lol. Keeps manufacturers on their toes and always wanting to make improvements. Its a good thing.

I just ordered a MoiP system to test out in my house.

Well that was just about brain dead easy to get up and running and programmed into my commandfusion remote.

My existing SMC switch really isn't up to the task but it's working

Don't ask for my opinion on PQ. I only have a 60" @ 1080p and my eyes are going to shit.

The hardest part was enabling Jumbo Frames and then going through my other equipment on the network that threw a hissy fit about it to alter settings.

We are a JAP dealer. We are always looking for new technology. The thing that looks like a major issue for us is that it seems the Snap product does not convert audio to 2 channel stereo. We never do a job without at least 1 surround sound zone, and usually 2 or 3. JAP allows us to break out the audio and send it to the audio matrix for stereo rooms. JAP also has lip sync control which we use all the time. Without these features, the Snap product would not work for us.