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Atmos design question.
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Post 1 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 08:35
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Ive only done one Atmos theater, and we used floor standing speakers for fronts, rears, and sides, and in- ceiling for the atmos speakers (At the time Atmos had just released and I dont think any speaker manufacturers had released their Atmos speakers yet.

So yesterday upon returning to work, I walked into a typical case of sales puke ingesting foot. We are in the middle of wiring a new home. The "theater room" is not a dedicated theater. Its part of a large area with a two sided fireplace separating the theater from the game room area. It will have an 85" panel instead of a screen or projector. The fronts and center speakers will be built into a custom cabinet with the TV. The surrounds and rears are in ceilings. For atmos can I add 2 more in ceiling speakers running front to back of the room?

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Post 2 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 08:47
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The speaker position requirements are a bit strange compared the the traditional configuration. If you really want to follow Dolby specs., the side surround speakers should be ear level or no more than halfway up the wall. Ive found this seems to close to listeners at the sides of the room
Post 3 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 09:34
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Yes, atmos speakers can go in the ceiling.

[Link: dolby.com]
OP | Post 4 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 09:36
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On July 6, 2018 at 09:34, bricor said...
Yes, atmos speakers can go in the ceiling.

[Link: dolby.com]

But will it work if the surrounds and rears are in ceiling also?

Also, is 7.1.2 or 5.1.4 better?
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Post 5 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 09:48
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On July 6, 2018 at 09:36, Fins said...
But will it work if the surrounds and rears are in ceiling also?

Also, is 7.1.2 or 5.1.4 better?

It will “work”, it just won’t be as good as it should be. Using angled-baffle speakers for the surround channels, reflected off of walls will help.

What is the seating layout? I’m assuming you don’t have multiple rows of seating.
OP | Post 6 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 10:15
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Seating will be a couple large sofas or probably a sectional. At least that’s most likely what it will be. It will not be in rows or traditional style theater seating
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Post 7 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 12:48
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I like to do 5.1.4 configs.
Have done many with all 3 pair in the ceiling.
Optimal, no, but still sounds bad ass.
Post 8 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 17:10
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With all speakers in the ceiling, I would go 5.1.4 over the 7.1.2
If for no other reason, you only have 2 speakers out of optimal place rather than 4.

And like osiris said, using angled ceiling baffled speakers will make a big difference for those out-of-place ones, bouncing sound from the optimal places on the wall.
Post 9 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 18:14
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On July 6, 2018 at 12:48, bricor said...
I like to do 5.1.4 configs.
Have done many with all 3 pair in the ceiling.
Optimal, no, but still sounds bad ass.

I would agree with this as well. I've done it a few times for sure.

I actually have 6 in-ceiling (along with Def Tech BP towers and center for fronts) in my basement because it would be too goofy to try to place the rears according to Dolby specs with the way the room is shaped. And I love it!
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Post 10 made on Friday July 6, 2018 at 19:30
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On July 6, 2018 at 18:14, MNTommyBoy said...
I actually have 6 in-ceiling (along with Def Tech BP towers and center for fronts) in my basement because it would be too goofy to try to place the rears according to Dolby specs with the way the room is shaped. And I love it!

This shows that while we should always shoot for perfect per theory, reality is a lot more forgiving than theory.
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Post 11 made on Sunday July 8, 2018 at 14:55
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On July 6, 2018 at 19:30, Ernie Gilman said...
This shows that while we should always shoot for perfect per theory, reality is a lot more forgiving than theory.

Right. There's what looks good on paper (for specs), and then what actually works in the customer's space.
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