As you know, it can act as a router, or be set in bridge mode as a basic WAP.

Have any of you used the routing functions with success?

I would not use it in an automation based house, just thinking the simplest of systems with a handful of family members and a couple thermostats, etc.

Not really interested in "I'd never do that, it's stupid", but some real life feedback.

Works fine for real basic stuff like you describe. It likes to give out odd ip. addresses, not the normal (192.168.x.x. Or 10.0.1.x) unless you specifically set it up.

Other than that, they're ok.

The hardware is capable (quad-core processor, 4GB Flash, 512MB RAM) and it does all the basic services you need (DHCP pool, Static IPs, VPNs, UPnP, port forwarding, etc.).
No reason why you can not use it to its full ability.

I only have 1 system deployed and it was a basic setup. So there might be issues with it choking when you throw to much at it (multi VPNs, etc.) but I don't remember anyone saying they have ran into limitations with it, outside of what it is listed to do.

I thought I saw a Control4 message in their dealer forums about not using Eero with their systems.

Control4 blacklisted essentially all of the consumer “mesh” systems. Also Ubiquiti. I have a very hard time believing that they aren’t doing some of that to push Pakedge sales.

The trainer from Eero said theirs definitely work with C4, but they haven't received approval. I have to think some companies are pretty puckered when they approve competing brands.

I have a bunch of systems running on eero. C4 dumped them on the DNU list far after I had been using them. I still install eero and C4 Systems, they just plain work, and stupidly well.

I’m starting to use eeros in mid level Systems now. I still know the limit but they just work......as long as your not an idiot.

The packedge thing has been a disaster. The writing is on the wall, I’m sure soon C4 won’t warrant Systems that aren’t running on packedge.

Eero as routers have worked fine on the ones I've installed (at least 12).
No VPNs or anything but ip reservations, port forwarding, etc work fine.amd many have lights, thermostats, Sonos, cameras, etc

I just did my first Total Control System on Eero. It works better than Luxul. Someone roaming is better. 802.11r is 802.11r, but with the Luxul Controller, roaming with Total Control plain sucks. We just did Total Control, Lutron, and a ton of Sonos, and the Eero has been running like a champ for 2 weeks. I have actually pulled 4 Luxul jobs and replaced them with Eero and the results were astonishing. How can a system that costs 3x as much not work as well....oh wait...Luxul.

Mike, that is interesting with TC. I thought you had to have a separate 2.4 radio that the TC remote had to connect to. Didn’t think you could do that with the Eero. Good to hear you’re having success, however.

I’ve had good luck with eero. Does not work with Global Cache fyi

GC requires Wireless B, which is not in Eero. Their hardwired units work fine though.

Has anyone used the Ubiquiti? I'm considering a mesh system for commissioning purposes.

Quite often I'm on construction sites where the client network isnt up, yet our cabling is complete so we use temporary switches for device configurations. I like the idea of having a reasonable sized wireless network up and running during commissioning.

How configurable are these things in terms of router/lan settings? Currently using an ubiquiti air router and it does what I need but its range is limited.

The issue we have seen with the Eero as a router is when the internet goes down the units stop working that includes the internal routing functions.

Wow so this is a huge issue. After seeing your post and then googling i found that you should be able to continue accessing your LAN as long as you dont reboot the eero. Still though...WTF.

I read this recent response from an EERO Employee responding to someone. Looks like this is a confirmed issue with no solution.

Original link: [Link: community.eero.com]



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Crazgod Crazgod 2 mths ago

Hello. As a long time Eero owner ( I was an early adopter) I want to bump this thread and as an enterprise technologist who specializes in networking with 20 years in my field, I want provide those of you asking questions with a little insight into this problem.

First off, it’s obviously been this way since day one. The reason it does this, and most likely the reason they won’t comment on it, is because the way the Eeros were designed initially, in my humble opinion, had a flaw. They had no form of configuration redundancy, preventing off-line operation, but I’m sure this was intentional because of the hardware utilization gains is it provided.

Unfortunately in today’s technology marketplace too many companies are taking shortcomings and calling them features. Add some old person somewhere used to say, it doesn’t matter how much you polish a turd, it’s still a turd.

In this case, this limitation results from the way the system is built. Essentially the routers you have in your home are little more than dummy clients. In other words, the operating system, or the brains of these routers, is hosted almost completely online. This gives them the ability to run the routers with less of a footprint getting more bang for their buck out of the hardware. The unfortunate but obvious cost is the routers themselves have very limited capabilities on their own.

Now, I’m guessing here but they probably won’t do anything about this because it would require a complete retooling of the software, and more than likely the hardware as well. There may be ways they could do it simpler but the scope of the effort depends completely on how the existing systems are built.

I don’t understand why they’ve remained silent on this for so long either though. While the silence tempts me to think this isn’t a simple issue for them, choosing to ignore everyone here who is begging for this indicates customer support deficiencies more than anything else. It seems to me like they could have redesigned to allow the routers to store the last known configuration from the servers in order to fall back to it in the event of a loss of network connectivity. But, what do I know? I only do this for a living!

As a heads up, this would most likely require them to increase some of the resources in the routers (i.e. memory, storage, etc), which means it wouldn’t be something they could push to existing devices. That means we would only get the new functionality by going out and purchasing completely new, expensive routers. I would imagine it’s possible to get this going on existing hardware, but I’m sure that wouldn’t be the path of least resistance. In other words, it won’t be cheaper or quicker. Most things of this nature are little more than a function of time and money. Given the high prices each and everyone of us paid for these devices, I would venture to say they have both and are choosing to drop the ball here.


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Jeff C.eero employee eero Community Manager Jeff_C 2 mths ago

Crazgod —

Thanks for taking the time to share your feedback and interest in this feature.

I'd like to touch on much of what you mentioned and provide any clarity to what may be potentially confusing to others.

We have never called this a feature, and we have acknowledged that this is a limitation of how eero currently works. As you mentioned, making this change will take a lot of work and improvements to the underlying software, and it is something our team is continuing to work towards. As soon as we have more to share, this will be one of the first channels we update.

Most importantly, an update for this type of support would not require new hardware. Both the 1st and 2nd generation eero, as well as the eero Beacon, are designed to be fully-functioning access points. They have been built with industry-leading design and technology (you can check out the tech specs at the bottom of this page) to make eeros provide the coverage and reliability into homes with the smaller form factor compared to many others in this space.

The main benefits of the current requirement of the cloud-connection are that this ensures your eeros are 1. healthy and stable, 2. updated with our latest eero OS, and 3. secure.

We hope to have more to share soon. We have always stated that eero only gets better with time, and we are still committed to that.