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Help get me up to speed with Dish TV install requirements
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Post 1 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 18:04
SB Smarthomes
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Have a client at the end of a 3+ year build that was going to use DirecTV and now changing last minute to Dish TV because they are converting from DirecTV to Dish at their primary residence.

I haven't worked with Dish TV in 6-8 years...

Can anyone offer up answers to the questions below to help get me started?

1. What are the cabling requirements from Dish to distribution panel inside the house?  Is it a single coax (RG6) or are multiple coax required from dish to distribution point?

2. Any distance limitations on cabling?  Distance from dish to inside distribution point will be a minimum of 190ft and then distance from the distribution point out to the farthest receiver is about 180ft (all runs are RG6 quad shield BC).

3. Do the main host box and the client "Joeys" all support 4k?

4. Does Dish TV currently offer any 4K content?

5. Is the little Joey client similar in size to the DirecTV mini client (I have to hide a few of these in wall boxes behind the TVs).

6. Do the Dish TV receivers support IP control, or are they IR only.  Control System is URC Total Control so would be nice to know if IP and/or IR control is reliable or finicky.

7. Does the Dish TV Dish point in a similar direction to the Directv dish?

Appreciate an insight or assistance... I'll be digging into this early next week.

Thanks!
Paul
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Post 2 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 18:18
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First of all Dish is way better then DirecTV.

1. You dont mention how many tuners/boxes. Generally 1 solid copper coax is enough, but we still always wire 2 or more. I'm not 100% sure how this breaks down.

2. Not sure seems like your fine

3. Hopper3 and Joey4k yes

4. Not sure, probably a bug on a leaf channel

5. Yes

6. Yes, Elan has a driver

7. Yes, same direction
Post 3 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 19:03
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I would like to add to the distance thing. If by chance the further Joey doesn’t work. Then just plug in an Ethernet cable to the back and disconnect the coax. (I’m assuming there will be Ethernet installed at all TV points.) Because Dish TV allows content to be delivered over Ethernet too.

I had mine done over WiFi with the “DishTV WiFi dongle” made by Netgear plugged into my Joey. The Hopper 3 was already connected via WiFi as well. I loved it as it was wireless and I didn’t have to provide a coax or Ethernet at whatever location.

KOT
OP | Post 4 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 19:04
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

There will be a total of 5 TVs so sounds like this might comprise of 1 Hopper3 and 4 Joeys...
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Post 5 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 19:09
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Bear in mind that although pointed in a similar direction, the Dish satellites are lower in the sky, so trees can be a problem where they won't be with DTV.
Post 6 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 20:05
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I’m not sure about Total Control, but IP control via Control4 is pretty awesome. I don’t think you have an issue with hiding the clients in wall boxes.
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Post 7 made on Friday June 8, 2018 at 20:10
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On June 8, 2018 at 19:04, SB Smarthomes said...
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

There will be a total of 5 TVs so sounds like this might comprise of 1 Hopper3 and 4 Joeys...

4K Joey's are a separate sku.
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday June 12, 2018 at 12:50
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Thanks for the info... knowing the Joeys can operate over Ethernet instead of MoCA over coax is beneficial.  I do have Ethernet available at all the TV locations.
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Post 9 made on Tuesday June 12, 2018 at 13:07
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Thanks for starting this thread. We're looking at referring people to Dish as we've had nightmares dealing with DirecTV's (lack of) customer service. I'm also not a fan of the lag time with many of their boxes now. Sometimes it takes 45 seconds just to get a picture to pop up. The information above is great. Are there any reasons not to go with Dish?
See our Youtube page for info about smart homes, great audio and more.

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Post 10 made on Tuesday June 12, 2018 at 13:34
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On June 12, 2018 at 13:07, punter16 said...
Thanks for starting this thread. We're looking at referring people to Dish as we've had nightmares dealing with DirecTV's (lack of) customer service. I'm also not a fan of the lag time with many of their boxes now. Sometimes it takes 45 seconds just to get a picture to pop up. The information above is great. Are there any reasons not to go with Dish?

Sunday ticket and maybe some regional sports on one service vs the other.

Setup with the Dish Custom Install program. Its a bit of a gauntlet to get done but you just sell Hoppers and Joeys like any other piece of equipment. Then you contact the custom install program installers and they send a competent Dish guy that points the Dish, activated the account and GTFO.

Then on top of that Dish has 2 way comms if your automation system provides drivers.

You can also do PiP, or Quad view, which is great for sports.
Post 11 made on Tuesday June 12, 2018 at 15:35
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We are moving from DirecTV to Dish. The Joeys are not super thin, about a 1/2"! Easy to put behing tv's if there is no video distribution. AND even their joeys have analog audio out. AND it all has native Alexa. DirecTV is now playing the catch up game. Whats their answer? A fugged up "tower" that talks to all the clients. Ya, winner right there,,,not.


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