Yeah, probably been covered, but google's not helping.

Any benefit to Samsung RS232 besides no emitter? Like, does it stack commands and issue as ready, elminating the needs for any delays? Or is it glorified IR seeing as how it's one way?

I mostly do Sony... some Samsung help is appreciated.

I’ve personally had better luck with ir than 232 with Samsung

Never used Samsung Ex Link from the control system drivers ive seen for it they usually have some key commands which are not accessable i think power and volume, so ive always stayed away.

Some of the newer Samsungs have IP control, but havnt integrated one yet.

If you're using a control system that has RS-232 it probably also has IP control.  If so, skip RS-232 at this point and move straight to IP.

Many of the 2017 Samsung models had IP control and apparently ALL 2018 Samsung models have IP control.

I think all the major control manufacturers now have the Samsung IP driver.

I've done my last two projects (totaling 14 Samsung TVs) with IP control and it's working well.  I'm using URC Total Control and they did have a bug in the driver so the discrete Netflix command wasn't working, but this was corrected in an update a few weeks ago.

I think you'll find some additional discrete commands available with IP that aren't supported with IR.  Discrete control of Art mode on the Frame TVs is one example and IP provides discrete commands for many of the streaming services which I don't think you can do with IR.

Is IP straight telnet or is it more complex?

I've had no problems at all using ex-link or IP with Samsung.

I guess what I'm asking is if there is any benefit over IR. I've used both, only ever had a problem with RS232, though it could have been an HDBT problem.

Truth is I'm 90% done with a rack and I'm wondering if I should wire RS232 to my HDBT extenders. Also, sometimes the Ex link 3.5mm are in a bad spot. If there was no benefit I'd just use IR.

This is an Elan system, no Samsung drivers for it, though I could do one way telnet if that's all the IP was, but I have no information on that.

IR usually works fine but you either have to crack the device open to hide it or you have to look at the it bug forever.

Exlink IP CEC are usually a more solid way to control things but there are often limitations like boo ON command or no volume control etc.. But...IMO...at the end of the day a TV with discrete commands for IR is just fine. Obviously if you have a more sophisticated control system and you are tracking States then IR isn't the best choice.

There's more to it than a simple telnet connection.  Samsung had to sanction the driver for each control system.  There's a token that has to be issued by the control system and then accepted by the TV during setup before IP control will work.

My experience with IP control on Samsung is fairly limited (only been using it for a couple months) but so far no real issues.  I've heard about trouble over WiFi, but if you hard wire Ethernet and create a MAC reservation or hard coded IP to lock in the address control seem solid.

We use ex-link on sams just about every install over the past 2 years without a single hiccup. We use the following combined with the right DB9 male adapter.


[Link: amazon.com]

2018 Samsung IP control is still an unknown. While there is reason to believe it will eventually work, all I have seen so far is:

(1) 1 report that standard EX-Link codes do not work. 0 reports that it does work.

(2) Multiple reports that IP control in the method of the 2016/2017 models does not work. 0 reports that it does work.

(3) Samsung has not updated their own app with 2018 model IP control yet.

I get the feeling the models just hitting the market today may not yet have some control features enabled yet. Would love to hear verified contradictory information.

I like to use EXLink when I'm doing a JustAddPower system.  I can plug right into the J+P receiver and I'm done.  No emitter to fall off and one less cable to run.

Otherwise I just use an IR emitter because it is one less conductor for our installers to mess up when splicing.

Hmm,
I thought the EX link had a different pin out than standard RS232. I guess not. Just plug it and go eh?

worst case, you have to move a jumper on the bottom of the J+P receiver or use a null modem adapter if you have the DB9 version receiver.  I'd have to go back on my notes, but it is just plug in with off the shelf parts.

3.5MM Stereo Plug 1 tip 2 ring 3 shaft


-P1- -P2-
2----White-----1

3-----Red------2

4-----Spiral----3

It was off a sheet Created by Duct Tape.... :)