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Post 1 made on Thursday March 15, 2018 at 19:14
wcl
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I am gutting an antique upright piano and installing a Nord keyboard into the shell. This will be going in my dining room. My issue is that I need in wall speakers that would accommodate loud play back. I will also add a pro audio subwoofer that can be concealed by other furniture. Adding studio monitor cabinet speakers is not an option with the wife.

I have not chosen my amplification yet until I find out if in wall speakers exist for pro audio. There would also be a mixer in line to add a mic from time to time. I am not rich, but my budget is flexible for this to sound great.

Does anyone make this type of in wall?

Hoping one of the pros here has had this request at some point. Any assistance would be great!

Dining room is 16x16 BTW
Post 2 made on Friday March 16, 2018 at 03:21
Brad Humphrey
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What do you mean when you say 'pro audio speakers'? Are you talking 70v or regular dynamic?
If conventional dynamic speakers, the word 'pro audio' is just a label. There is nothing magical about the speakers themselves, they are the same as any other speaker. It is not like the difference between pro audio electronics - where different connector types and signal levels are encountered.
Generally with speaker brands, the 'pro audio' label accompanies speakers with high power handling, high sensitivity, and rugged build (when it comes to box speakers). Some of those traits are actually 'undesirable' in a smaller residential space (depending on the size of the room).

As far as in-wall speakers goes, I don't recall any brand offering a rectangle in-wall labeled for 'pro audio' use. Only ceiling speakers and many variations of box speakers.
Is this going to be in a large room? High SPL desired?
Post 3 made on Friday March 16, 2018 at 08:23
Shoe
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If you're gutting the piano have you consider installing powered speakers and a mixer in the piano itself? There is a lot of room i both th upper and lower portion of the case.
Post 4 made on Friday March 16, 2018 at 13:22
Ernie Gilman
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On March 16, 2018 at 03:21, Brad Humphrey said...
Is this going to be in a large room? High SPL desired?

On March 15, 2018 at 19:14, wcl already said...
Dining room is 16x16 BTW
...My issue is that I need in wall speakers that would accommodate loud playback.

We pros refer to "loud playback" as "high SPL."

On March 15, 2018 at 19:14, wcl said...
I will also add a pro audio subwoofer that can be concealed by other furniture.

The brand and model of this will influence the choice of the other speakers. See my signature. And, per Brad's comments, what is a "pro audio subwoofer"?


On March 16, 2018 at 03:21, Brad Humphrey said...
What do you mean when you say 'pro audio speakers'? Are you talking 70v or regular dynamic?

? ? 70 Volt speakers are regular four or eight ohm dynamic speakers.

What's different about them is not in the speakers, but in the transformers that are attached, and their wiring chosen, to create a system that can deliver different levels of power to different speakers as well as allowing the total available power to be split among any bizarre quantity of speakers.

The transformers reduce the impedance matching problem from "Does this interconnection of speakers equal four to eight ohms?" to "Is the total amount of power delivered by all of the transformers less than the total amount of available amplifier power?"

One false distinction many people hold between hi fi and 70 volt speakers is the idea that 70 volt speakers sound like crap.

That idea agrees with the reality of, say, sixty speakers in the ceiling of a HUGE furniture store, where you want even coverage and clear midrange but you don't care much about bass. And, oh, yeah, the contract is for SIXTY of these friggin' puppies!

But you get yourself a restaurant with 1500 sq ft, four SoundTube pendant speakers on one channel and one SoundTube pendant subwoofer on the preamp's subwoofer channel, and your 70 Volt system WILL ROCK. (At least it did yesterday in our latest system.)
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw


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