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Topic: | Sunbrite vs. Samsung in a fully protected outdoor setting This thread has 13 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Saturday March 10, 2018 at 13:10 |
tomciara Loyal Member |
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Most clients opt for an indoor television if the outdoor location is not going to result in direct moisture. In California the temperatures are moderate enough that freezing is never an issue. That being said, the clients ran across a outdoor TV shootout where the Sunbrite got very high marks, and he is wondering if it is going to look better outside, separate from the whole weatherproofing issue. Any Sunbrite dealers here, to comment? [Link: outeraudio.com]
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Post 2 made on Saturday March 10, 2018 at 17:33 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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Sunbright looks great. If there is sun, the cheap Veranda series is not the right set, he will have to spend more. I personally will not install and indoor the outside. People are sue happy. While something likely will never happen with an indoor tv being outside, I have to CMOA!!!
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Post 3 made on Saturday March 10, 2018 at 19:10 |
Stryker Long Time Member |
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Seura
Outdoor TVs are brighter than standard TVs. Do not use standard TVs outside.
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Post 4 made on Sunday March 11, 2018 at 09:51 |
Dawn Gordon Luks Founding Member |
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Don't forget about the liability. Putting a standard TV outside is not code.
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OP | Post 5 made on Sunday March 11, 2018 at 12:54 |
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On March 10, 2018 at 19:10, Stryker said...
Seura
Outdoor TVs are brighter than standard TVs. Do not use standard TVs outside. Just curious how often you put in outdoor TVs, and if you have seen them to be definitively brighter. My experience at tradeshows and in a few client situations is that these standard televisions that are encapsulated to make them waterproof have an extra screen in front that actually makes them darker and duller.
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Post 6 made on Sunday March 11, 2018 at 18:12 |
Stryker Long Time Member |
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Ive installed a couple dozen. 10 years ago they were not brighter In recent years the market has grown and th products have improved. Most now are brighter some significantly I installed a SunBrite Pro series before Christmas for a clients surprise for her husband. it’s pretty bright
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Post 7 made on Monday March 12, 2018 at 11:24 |
Derek@SnapAV Long Time Member |
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Hey everyone,
The Veranda is meant for a shade only installation. It is still slightly brighter than an indoor TV. The biggest thing is over time it is going to stand up to the environment where the indoor TV will not (high and low temperatures, humidity, if it is splashed with water, etc).
If there is high ambient light then you would want to start with the signature series. These TV's are significantly brighter than an indoor TV. Signature series are 700 Nits where most indoor TVs are going to be sub 400 Nits. We also use an anti-glare screen to help with reflections. These TVs are ideal for partial sun applications.
The Pro series are just as bright as the Signature except for the 32" which is 1000 Nits. The biggest difference is that these TVs are going built for the harshest conditions. Fans for extreme heat, heaters for low temperatures, they also use tempered glass to help protect from impact. They will handle direct sunlight. This TV also uses an anti glare screen.
Sorry for the "salesy" post. Just wanted to make sure I got all of you the information you were hopefully looking for.
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Post 8 made on Monday March 12, 2018 at 12:01 |
Zohan Super Member |
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On March 12, 2018 at 11:24, Derek@SnapAV said...
Hey everyone,
The Veranda is meant for a shade only installation. It is still slightly brighter than an indoor TV. The biggest thing is over time it is going to stand up to the environment where the indoor TV will not (high and low temperatures, humidity, if it is splashed with water, etc).
If there is high ambient light then you would want to start with the signature series. These TV's are significantly brighter than an indoor TV. Signature series are 700 Nits where most indoor TVs are going to be sub 400 Nits. We also use an anti-glare screen to help with reflections. These TVs are ideal for partial sun applications.
The Pro series are just as bright as the Signature except for the 32" which is 1000 Nits. The biggest difference is that these TVs are going built for the harshest conditions. Fans for extreme heat, heaters for low temperatures, they also use tempered glass to help protect from impact. They will handle direct sunlight. This TV also uses an anti glare screen.
Sorry for the "salesy" post. Just wanted to make sure I got all of you the information you were hopefully looking for. So you are saying the signature series and the pro series are the same brightness level except for the 32 inch? Any plans for a non 4k 65 inch?
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Post 9 made on Monday March 12, 2018 at 17:04 |
Derek@SnapAV Long Time Member |
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On March 12, 2018 at 12:01, Zohan said...
So you are saying the signature series and the pro series are the same brightness level except for the 32 inch? Exactly. The biggest differences between the 2 models are the Pro's ability to handle much harsher conditions and direct sunlight. A lot of people underestimate what direct sunlight will do to a TV panel over time. It is essentially baking the panel inside the housing. The Pro series prevents this. On March 12, 2018 at 12:01, Zohan said...
Any plans for a non 4k 65 inch? At this time no. What is your reason for wanting a 1080P panel? Cost?
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Post 10 made on Monday March 12, 2018 at 19:16 |
Zohan Super Member |
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On March 12, 2018 at 17:04, Derek@SnapAV said...
Exactly.
The biggest differences between the 2 models are the Pro's ability to handle much harsher conditions and direct sunlight. A lot of people underestimate what direct sunlight will do to a TV panel over time. It is essentially baking the panel inside the housing. The Pro series prevents this.
At this time no. What is your reason for wanting a 1080P panel? Cost? Yes, have been told or asked do I really need a 4k as an outside tv.
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OP | Post 11 made on Monday March 12, 2018 at 20:08 |
tomciara Loyal Member |
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Related question:
This outdoor installation is above a gas fireplace, with no mantel. The TV will be inset, so it will either be flush with the front of the fireplace, or recessed an inch or two.
I feel OK with a mantel acting as a heat deflector. Would you be comfortable with this arrangement with the fireplace heat rising straight up?
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Post 12 made on Tuesday March 13, 2018 at 10:33 |
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On March 12, 2018 at 20:08, tomciara said...
Related question:
This outdoor installation is above a gas fireplace, with no mantel. The TV will be inset, so it will either be flush with the front of the fireplace, or recessed an inch or two.
I feel OK with a mantel acting as a heat deflector. Would you be comfortable with this arrangement with the fireplace heat rising straight up? I have this setup in my own home for my living room. Built a bump out for a linear fireplace and a pocket for my TV. No mantle and the TV is set back maybe 2-3”. No problems at all and the TV does get warm but not as hot as what the fireplace pumps out.
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Post 13 made on Tuesday March 13, 2018 at 11:47 |
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On March 11, 2018 at 18:12, Stryker said...
Ive installed a couple dozen. 10 years ago they were not brighter In recent years the market has grown and th products have improved. Most now are brighter some significantly I installed a SunBrite Pro series before Christmas for a clients surprise for her husband. it’s pretty bright Exactly. Even the cheapest series is brighter than a Samsung. The issue with that series is there is no anti reflective properties in direct sunlight. My goto is the signature series which I have many located at swimming pool locations with no protection. They do well. The lower end has sound built in as where the upper models will need a sound bar or an audio system incorporated.
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Post 14 made on Wednesday March 28, 2018 at 12:50 |
AnilAppleLink Long Time Member |
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We almost always recommend Sunbrite or an outdoor TV outdoors. We have has a client that did not want to pay for them and used a Samsung with an outdoor housing and he was happy with it. Picture was okay in the shade.
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