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| Topic: | Lutron Sivoia QS vs. QS Wireless Shades This thread has 26 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 27. |
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| Post 16 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 11:49 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 11:03, SB Smarthomes said...
The wired shades are much better quality and the drives operate with less noise. Wired shades offer more options for roller size and things like coupled shades which you can't do with wireless.
You also can pocket battery operated shades unless you somehow account for access to replace batteries (or use the hardwired option which kind of eliminates the reason to use wireless). You can couple QS Wireless. I am also not aware of any differences in the QS wireless drives, Triathlon (battery) is a different story. As for the Shade vendor proposing QS wireless its because they are not certified. Which is also why when pressed they gave an answer that was cloudy at best. As for QS Wireless it is a rock solid platform and I would not hesitate deploying it unless we are talking about a massive house with hundreds of window openings. You really should be in the automated window covering business. As a matter of fact I would scrap all other forms of this industry and just do Lighting and Shading if I lived an a bigger market. Bigger profit margins, very few call backs, highly satisfied clients just about every time.
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| Post 17 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 11:59 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 11:49, oprahthehutt. said...
You can couple QS Wireless. I am also not aware of any differences in the QS wireless drives, Triathlon (battery) is a different story. My mistake... I skimmed the thread quickly and thought it was a question of Triathlon battery powered vs. QS Wired. You're correct that there's no difference in the shade hardware except for the RF dongle required to be added for wireless.
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| Post 18 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 15:05 |
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On February 16, 2018 at 19:05, internetraver said...
You can F up the order quickly and it can cost you THOUSANDS. How about spec'ing a 28 shade job as QS when it should have been QS wireless. Those wireless dongles are $300 each....Of course Lutron worked with me but damn that hurt.
I remember that and all I could think is "I bet that hurt!"
 But hey, taken in the butt while seeing cool Lutron shades going upwards was worth the pain! I hope you are well!
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| Post 19 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 15:08 |
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| Post 20 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 17:11 |
Forgive my ignorance, can a Ra2 dealer use a lutron wired shades setup? Other shade training level that has to be completed perhaps?
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| Post 21 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 18:03 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 11:17, crosen said...
The project has 11 shades. The main control platform on the project is Control4.
For a wired solution, I understand we have 2 options for the control interface. We can either use a HWQS processor or we can us the NWK interface.
A HWQS processor seems like overkill. Is there a reason not to use the NWK interface? i Believe the NWK unit has been discontinued, the Single Link processor should be pretty close in cost to the NWK. If you can get a hold of the NWK unit, its probably the least expensive way to go.
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| Post 22 made on Monday February 19, 2018 at 22:45 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 17:11, IRkiller said...
Forgive my ignorance, can a Ra2 dealer use a lutron wired shades setup? Other shade training level that has to be completed perhaps? You can't use wired Sivoia QS shades directly with RA2, but you can use QS wireless shades with RA2 which are the same shade drive units with wired power and an external RF dongle. Access to the QS shade line required additional training... I think when I did the training it was a 5 day course similar to HomeWorks QS training. If you're not direct with Lutron, I think you can purchase QS shades through distribution once you're certified.
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| Post 23 made on Tuesday February 20, 2018 at 01:18 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 11:17, crosen said...
The project has 11 shades. The main control platform on the project is Control4.
For a wired solution, I understand we have 2 options for the control interface. We can either use a HWQS processor or we can us the NWK interface.
A HWQS processor seems like overkill. Is there a reason not to use the NWK interface? One reason to use a processor is that you can program your shades in Lutron software. If your C4 processor goes down you still have control of your shades manually with a lutron keypad or with the Lutron app.
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| Post 24 made on Tuesday February 20, 2018 at 08:35 |
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Also, Control4 doesn't seem to offer an NWK driver for their latest software.
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| OP | Post 25 made on Tuesday February 20, 2018 at 18:13 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 11:45, SB Smarthomes said...
I have limited experience with the NWK, but either should work. Lutron now also has a single link HWQS processor that would work and is about the same price as the NWK (about $40 more retail).
The single link processor would probably be the best option... The single link HWQS processor sounds perfect, thanks.
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| Post 26 made on Wednesday February 21, 2018 at 08:48 |
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See below....
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| Post 27 made on Wednesday February 21, 2018 at 19:38 |
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On February 19, 2018 at 22:45, SB Smarthomes said...
You can't use wired Sivoia QS shades directly with RA2, but you can use QS wireless shades with RA2 which are the same shade drive units with wired power and an external RF dongle.
Access to the QS shade line required additional training... I think when I did the training it was a 5 day course similar to HomeWorks QS training.
If you're not direct with Lutron, I think you can purchase QS shades through distribution once you're certified. This is most likely the reason the vendor recommended QS wireless. I’m not a C4 dealer but a RA2 select processor is pretty inexpensive and has a fairly broad range of control options.
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