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Need odd wired 4k60 solution
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Post 16 made on Thursday January 25, 2018 at 14:57
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Post 17 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 08:26
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Ernie, I think the piece you are missing is it's not a "splice" per se and with both improvements in the transceiver devices (HDbaseT isn't really a Balun, just uses the same cabling), and the in progress evolution to packet switched devices, most manufacturers recommendations have changed. They used to recommend only having terminations right at the devices. Crestron, as an example, even offers the patch panels, patch cables, etc. now. Treat it like network cabling, i.e. a quality RJ jack/Patch Panel/Patch Cable and you are fine with most newer HDbaseT devices, just can't go quite as far. My bigger concern would be the lack of shielding with HDbaseT if it is regular CAT6, which would lead me towards something streamed/packet switched, i.e. NVX, Just Add Power, SVSi, or any of the numerous others that have come on the market lately. At that point it is Ethernet, so just treat it like Ethernet and follow the same rules.

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Post 18 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 12:07
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On January 25, 2018 at 14:57, longshot16 said...

Really like these guys. Spoke to one of then for while a couple months back and they have a lot of talent in their house. The gear is the lowest profile I’ve come across to date.

So let’s talk about the best possible field splice for twisted pair. Double male rj45 and barrel, male rj45 to keystone jack, dolphin / scotch lock with minimum loss of twist? What’s your go to, besides a new drop?
OP | Post 19 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 12:55
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On January 27, 2018 at 12:07, Don Heany said...
So let’s talk about the best possible field splice for twisted pair. Double male rj45 and barrel, male rj45 to keystone jack, dolphin / scotch lock with minimum loss of twist? What’s your go to, besides a new drop?

While looking for the one I've used a few times, I found this approach: [Link: bgbsupply.com]. And this is the one I was looking for: [Link: showmecables.com]
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Post 20 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 17:46
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On January 27, 2018 at 12:55, Ernie Gilman said...
While looking for the one I've used a few times, I found this approach: [Link: bgbsupply.com]. And this is the one I was looking for: [Link: showmecables.com]

The latter one is interesting, thanks for sharing that! Would try to keep as much twist as possible on the pairs. Have always thought an “X” pattern 110 was smarter that the straight line style in trying to maintain close length integrity too.
Post 21 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 18:51
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Only way to splice a cat cable without a full patch panel, etc.

[Link: snapav.com]
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Post 22 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 19:13
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Have a few pieces I got from an MSO tech a while back, buried in a box of stuff- for just in case- love em, and they’re gel filled. [Link: tiitech.com]
Post 23 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 19:55
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On January 27, 2018 at 19:13, Don Heany said...
Have a few pieces I got from an MSO tech a while back, buried in a box of stuff- for just in case- love em, and they’re gel filled. [Link: tiitech.com]

That item is definitely NOT applicable to this scenario!!
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OP | Post 24 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 21:46
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Those tiitech things are only good for POTS -- plain old telephone service. I can't imagine why they were suggested here, unless it just wasn't a good enough joke. I mean, hell, I've got some full size 66 blocks I could use, too! With bridge clips and everything!
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Post 25 made on Saturday January 27, 2018 at 22:06
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I like the design, would have attempted to use something exactly like it for a splice as it it tool less and protected from the elements. Christ, I didn’t say wire nuts! Lol.
Post 26 made on Sunday January 28, 2018 at 02:15
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why do you need 4k60? the DTV box doesnt use it.
OP | Post 27 made on Sunday January 28, 2018 at 02:22
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On January 28, 2018 at 02:15, tanicargo said...
why do you need 4k60? the DTV box doesnt use it.

I was speaking generically in terms of getting a 4K signal to the other location. Sorry. I was not being technically accurate, which I always ask people to do.
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Post 28 made on Sunday January 28, 2018 at 21:46
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I like those junction boxes for when someone cuts the wire clean since one could make up two severed pieces as the connection points do NOT overlap.

I tried to do that with female and male RJ45 once and I was able to do it but it was oh so tight.
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