Anyone who wants my ten-paragraph answer can ask for it, but this is already long enough. Please realize that if you don't address this, but instead ask why I don't do something else, you'll be asking for the kind of long response that has brought objections in the past.

I have a client who needs to get a DirecTV 4K signal from a DVR to a TV in the adjacent room. Wire runs are impossible. Brent has me hooked up with the right model number for an RF solution but wired is always better.

There's also a fresh set of home runs to the garage, CAT6 to every location and RG6 to these two locations. Runs are probably 60 feet long... do you know of baluns or other devices that would get the signal to the TV with a layout like this:
Balun at DVR
Cable to garage
Splice of cables -- plugs and socket, punchdown... must be defined
Cable from garage to TV
Balun at TV

The thing that has me worried is the splice in the middle.

Thanks.

Coax to Gigabit Ethernet adaptors. Followed by Crestron NVX units or Just Add Power units?

that splice should present no problem whatsoever.

why do you need 4k60? the DTV box doesnt use it.

have you thought about putting the DTV box behind the TV and using the coax cable? hell of a lot cheaper/easier to extend DTV over coax vs 4k60 over cat

There is no DirecTV DVR that outputs 4K. Only the small 4K client (C61K) does that. And as Ed has mentioned, it would be a LOT cheaper to put that small DirecTV 4K client behind the TV.
Problem solved.

I have used the HD-4K extender from Transformative Engineering. Worked flawlessly. Jon Ralston at TE is very helpful much like Brent at Ethereal...

absolutly. TE is good stuff. again, a properly done splice should not effect that signal.

states it will go 200' at 4k60

Yeah. Well. Duh.
Thanks.

Meanwhile we have at least a short list of product that could get the signal there. Let's have more suggestions!

It is never impossible to run new wire. It may be impractical, or undesirable. But not impossible. :P

My go to long run products are from DPL Labs. I'm a big fan of the Inneos Real4k fiber kit.

Big sell from my point of view is the fact that they don't compress away half the data (I'm looking at you, HDbT). Similarly to HDbT however, they use a non-proprietary transmission medium in the form of regular old fiber. I've done a bunch of pulls with some of the other active calbbes and let me tell ya, those big ol HDMI heads are a total PITA when it comes to integrated installation. I see a bunch of fiber being installed in new construction, and these point-to-point lil guys are something that fit the bill!

ok... So maybe you could explain why you cant just put a C61 at the TV?

Am I right in reading that you're asking for the term paper on what it would take to run wire to this position? Or are you willing to just let the sleeping dog sleep (we wouldn't want him to lie, now, would we?) and accept that I'm asking for help without running new wires?

you have every wire you need in place. you do not need to run new wire!! this is standard practice. i am not sure what makes this odd? i have done this a million times. patch it perfectly at splice point and there should be no issues whatsoever.

so either put the DTV receiver at the tv or use an HDBT product suitable for 4k transmission over the given length and collect your check

what about a DirecTV wireless 4k client at the TV?

What makes it odd is using more than a hundred feet of cable to go twenty feet, and putting a splice into a 4K cabling setup. I've heard over and over that when you run CAT cables for HDMI, DO NOT terminate them in an RJ45 jack and then use a jumper to connect to the TV (or source), but instead run THAT cable ALL THE WAY to the TV or source. So... if adding a jack can mess up HD video, surely adding a splice right in the middle of more than a hundred feet of cable can cause a problem!

Please describe the details involved in "patch it perfectly." I'd definitely do my best. What do you know about that is perfecter than best?



Because I didn't bother to look up what gear outputs 4K and I was focusing on the wrong thing: a video over wire solution.

Thanks, everybody!

I just had a similar situation with the components 10 feet from the television, but no cables between the components and the television at all. There were cat5s to the TV location and equipment location, RG6 at the TV location and equipment location. All went 60 or 70 feet to the can in the master closet.

I terminated everything carefully and used a Zektor HD baseT converter, and could not get a picture. Note that at the equipment and TV location, there were jacks punched down, so I had a splice in the middle using an RJ-45 coupler, plus jacks at the TV and equipment locations. No go.

It was the end of the day, so I ran a cable across the floor to get them TV for the evening. I came back the next day with coaxial solutions, but seeing he had a handyman on site who was already adding electrical outlets and patching sheet rock, I left him a 5m Ethereal HDMI cable and some plaster rings and had him poke it through the wall. In this case it was a far less costly solution then extenders.

As others have said, I believe there could have still been a solution, but I would not say it was cut and dried, plug it in and you're done.

I have used Brent's wireless HDMI solution successfully in the past as well.