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What wire are you using?
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Post 16 made on Tuesday January 23, 2018 at 22:04
Craig Aguiar-Winter
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I use SCP. Cat6 and RG6Q solid copper. No complaints.

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Post 17 made on Wednesday January 24, 2018 at 02:49
ErikU
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Only Belden. Has anyone found anything better?
Post 18 made on Wednesday January 24, 2018 at 07:16
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On January 23, 2018 at 18:49, Innovative A/V said...
That's what I did...they didn't get back to me for the ICE.....so I ordered 3 boxes of snap CAT5....never again..20 deg weather...jackets cracking....snap said o well...I should have known, I had issues years ago

Haha, that's exactly what happened with me right down to having issues in the past. Didnt buy their wire for a loooong time (actually bought some coax, wasnt bad) but wouldnt touch anything else.

Then over on IP some guys were saying the wire had gotten a lot better, blah blah....I bit that bait and learned a lesson.
Post 19 made on Wednesday January 24, 2018 at 09:00
lippavisual
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Uh just about any cable manufacturer will tell you not to install Cabling in freezing temperatures.

BerkTek, which is a well known CAT cable manufacturer in the commercial world, even has issues with cold temps.
Post 20 made on Wednesday January 24, 2018 at 09:13
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Ice Cable! Both my local distys say they are moving to direct only (i think its a mistake for ice todo that) In a pinch I got some Honeywell cable from ADI. Although its better then Snaps wire its pretty terrible next to ICE.

Ive tried Windy City because I liked the cart system but their wire was no better then snaps and it seemed to tangle more then it should have. Liberty's cable is nice but pricey and I dont think its nearly as nice as ICE's.

A few years ago I had an issue with ICE's cat6 where the orange pair was twisted too tight and was broke in some areas. It required rewiring the 2nd floor and was a huge PITA. ICE took the bullet and covered the labor and then some in the form of a product credit. Ice very much cares about the industry and us. its evident in their boxes and cable. The best part is they really are not priced much differently from their competitors!
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 21 made on Wednesday January 24, 2018 at 09:47
Zohan
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On January 24, 2018 at 09:00, lippavisual said...
Uh just about any cable manufacturer will tell you not to install Cabling in freezing temperatures.

BerkTek, which is a well known CAT cable manufacturer in the commercial world, even has issues with cold temps.

For me it wasn't a temperature issue.
OP | Post 22 made on Wednesday January 24, 2018 at 11:45
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On January 24, 2018 at 09:47, Zohan said...
For me it wasn't a temperature issue.

Exactly...My ICE sat in my van in freezing temps for years and never had an issue like snaps...I don't think temp is the only issue with snap wire or products for that matter.

Also snap was more expensive!!!
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Post 23 made on Thursday January 25, 2018 at 00:43
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ICE!! I'm pretty lucky since we're in L.A. I believe they have the best wire available. I bugged them to start making 500' bare copper quad shield and they finally did! So much nicer and lighter than 1k boxes. They deliver right to my job sites, sweet!
I used to use Avad's private label years go (I forgot the name) and it was on par with ICE but they started selling SCP and I didn't like it. The cat6 was stiff and just didn't seem it was on the same level as ICE's cat6. This was three or four years ago, so maybe they've changed, but I'm not changing over from ICE unless something drastic changes my customer base and I'd have to adjust things.
I also tried Snaps Binary and tossed it in the trash, this was a couple of years ago though.
My 2 cents...
Post 24 made on Thursday January 25, 2018 at 12:28
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Liberty for like 20 years now. Never any issues with any cable.
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