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New Belden RJ45 connection
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Post 1 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 08:33
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[Link: info.belden.com]

hope the price isn't crazy!!!
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Post 2 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 09:17
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$100 for the tool (or free for initial promotion)

$10-12 for each connector?
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Post 3 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 09:20
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Pricey-, for the couplers/ends. If it saves a lot of time, it might be worth the price.

[Link: prowireandcable.com]

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Post 4 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 11:14
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I haven’t used these, but they look like they have excellent strain relief and likely will have more consistent performance.
Post 5 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 12:56
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Right. The strain relief is GREAT as each wire is turned around 180 degrees from the cable direction.

These connectors also totally do away with the difficulty of getting all eight conductors inside a plug, all in the right order and at the right length. The objection or real problem of the wires sticking out of the EZRJ45 is also completely bypassed.
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Post 6 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 13:13
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Used a few hundred of the Rev Connect pieces on an install, both shielded and non shielded. Very easy to terminate, highly recommended.
Post 7 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 19:27
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On January 11, 2018 at 12:56, Ernie Gilman said...
These connectors also totally do away with the difficulty of getting all eight conductors inside a plug, all in the right order and at the right length.

A job I was on years ago, the electrician jumped at the chance to install all the data wiring, thinking he could make some big money. After all, in his words, "It just wires, and it's easy.".

I watched as he struggled getting the wires in the right order, along with getting them in the RJ's. He was still working away when I left some 6 hours later.

Apparently he wasn't quite as sharp as he thought, since someone else had to come in and correct everything he had attempted. Nothing worked....
Post 8 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 23:26
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The electrician installed networking that I’ve come across has nicked wires from when the cable jacket was removed. While these terminations might work for a while, they’ll fail over time or if they are flexed. And there could be an extra inch or two of removed jacket. Electricians have no concept of “bandwidth” and they’ll use the cheapest wire that they can find. And I’ve seen jobs where one man used “A” while the other man used “B”.
Post 9 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 00:14
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Judging from the video,it takes about the same amount of time as a standard RJ45.

Am I missing something?
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Post 10 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 06:23
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I don't think you missed anything. It appears just a bit less tedious to terminate as you don't have to straighten, align, flatten and insert the conductors like the conventional method. Maybe less trouble shooting or problems on a larger install.
Or sales are flat and coming up with the next hot sauce boost sales.
Post 11 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 07:49
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I don't think it was designed as much for reducing time, but less errors, and less skill. Offsetting labor costs with hardware and increasing work output with less training.
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Post 12 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 08:06
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Are the plug ends/rj45 ends really 11 bucks each?
Post 13 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 08:36
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On January 11, 2018 at 09:20, highfigh said...
Pricey-, for the couplers/ends. If it saves a lot of time, it might be worth the price.

[Link: prowireandcable.com]

[Link: prowireandcable.com]

On January 12, 2018 at 08:06, rlustig said...
Are the plug ends/rj45 ends really 11 bucks each?

The bulk pack shows qty 50... which figured out at $2.14 a piece.

Where did you see $11 each... am I missing something?
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Post 14 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 08:50
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On January 12, 2018 at 08:36, chicagoinstaller said...
The bulk pack shows qty 50... which figured out at $2.14 a piece.

Where did you see $11 each... am I missing something?

that is only for the core-

you then need to buy either the jack or the plug.

total cost when i looked at them was between $13-$18 per end depending on type.
Post 15 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 09:21
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On January 11, 2018 at 23:26, buzz said...
The electrician installed networking that I’ve come across has nicked wires from when the cable jacket was removed. While these terminations might work for a while, they’ll fail over time or if they are flexed. And there could be an extra inch or two of removed jacket. Electricians have no concept of “bandwidth” and they’ll use the cheapest wire that they can find. And I’ve seen jobs where one man used “A” while the other man used “B”.

Right- they think in terms of power, lights, switches and motors. They have no idea about why they shouldn't run new wiring adjacent and parallel to LV cabling. They're often lazy and opportunistic, too- they think its OK to use any hole that's drilled as a route for their wiring, even if it was drilled by someone else and has a pull cord passing through it.

I'm working on a job that has taken far too long and the current electricians (no pun intended) were asked to install a light fixture in a pantry where the lighting should have been settled over 6 months ago. I asked if they had thought about using some kind of switches like Caseta about a year ago and they declined, but I guess I should have considered the possibility that the wiring would have been a CF, based on the stated wants/needs of the homeowners and their lighting "expert"/kitchen designer. The new electrician waltzed in, said "Caseta" and I went there one day, only to see sixteen Caseta switches. Thanks. The homeowners decided the hanging fixture in the pantry (really?) should be on a dimmer, separate from the other lights, so the dimmer was placed inside of the sink cabinet, with the wiring going to the J-box that was supposed to be used ONLY for the TV I need to install. The problem- the guy who added this wiring decided that it's OK to enter the box with his Romex on the left side, which is where my flexible conduit comes in from the top. Now, I have to wait even longer for that to be repaired in order to install the effing TV and I'm the guy who's constantly asked when things will be finished.
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