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Ideal Atmos Overhead Channel Speakers?
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Post 1 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 12:14
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In a 7.2.4 system for the overhead speakers what is ideal? Are Triad silver rounds suitable for those channels? Or ideally would it be like the new rotating silver 9 aimed at the listening area?

I keep finding conflicting designs. Itís to my understand the .4 channels are the immersive channels so they should be a wide dispersion speaker?

If you were doing a 7.2.4 Atmos System from triad what would your products be for the overhead channels? (Doesnít have to be triad) would like some options!

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Post 2 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 12:34
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You need to contact Steve Colburn at Triad. You can send him photos of your room, and he will give you a full system design.
Post 3 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 14:29
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On January 10, 2018 at 12:34, osiris said...
You need to contact Steve Colburn at Triad. You can send him photos of your room, and he will give you a full system design.

This. they will design the whole thing for you.
Post 4 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 16:30
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+1 on Triad

It depends on a number of factors like how many seat, rows, height of ceiling, etc. Dolby has guideline about placement but their diagrams only cover one row of seating. They do say in their guides to angle the speakers if you need to for coverage of the listeners. I find this is necessary in many homes due to the shorter ceilings. With tall ceilings and depending where they are placed this can vary. Triad should be ab e to help with all this if you can give a layout of the room. I think their new rotating Silver will work in a lot of situations.
Post 5 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 17:48
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Would KEF's UniQ which claims to offer a wider sound stage help in a Atmos system in a room with shorter ceilings versus a speaker with aimable speakers? I just finished one with Origin Acoustic speakers that were aimable and it sounds great.
Post 6 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 18:37
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On January 10, 2018 at 12:34, osiris said...
You need to contact Steve Colburn at Triad. You can send him photos of your room, and he will give you a full system design.

+1,000,000

Wide dispersion is key for the height channels. In addition to Triad, the KEF Ci series work really well.
Post 7 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 18:44
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I am thinking of trying some KEF CI200Rx-THX in my house.....for 2.1 or 3.1 to start with, maybe adding rear and height channels. I have heard good things about them as height channels. My room is not ideal for even 5.1 let alone 5.1.2, but what the heck....might as well go for it.
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Post 8 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 22:17
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It's all going to come down to placement options. I would say the silver6 sat would be the best sounding option given its enclosure, but only if it's placement is ideal. I doubt the other products will disappoint either way. I haven't looked, but I'd bet the drivers and crossovers are pretty much the same across the board. Read the specs for atmos, position them the best you can, then choose the product. You will never get ideal, that's why we do what we do, we McGuyver the shit out of it.

At the end of the day, your atmos system in your family room, pushing Triad and JL subs, and who knows what amp (it won't suck), will sound better than most theaters you've ever done.

Just my $.02

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Post 9 made on Wednesday January 10, 2018 at 22:22
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Or use the gold mini monitors, match them to the Gold in wall monitors, and stop being a bitch.

Talk to your rep, sign up with Classe, because you know they need to sell some product, move some walls to achieve optimum dimensions, install motorized room treatments, and stop being a bitch.
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Post 10 made on Thursday January 11, 2018 at 00:18
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On January 10, 2018 at 22:22, Dave in Balto said...
Or use the gold mini monitors, match them to the Gold in wall monitors, and stop being a bitch.

Talk to your rep, sign up with Classe, because you know they need to sell some product, move some walls to achieve optimum dimensions, install motorized room treatments, and stop being a bitch.

So basically, any way you slice it, your advice is for him to stop being a bitch?
Post 11 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 10:44
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A speaker with good dispersion certainly helps but the speaker often still needs to be aimed especially if following Atmos spec and multiple seats/ rows.

For example dolby specs the Atmos speakers be in front (and behind) of the listeners at 45 degees. Even with good dispersion speakers this should be aimed and few speaker do verywell at 45 degrees and all will still have some high frequency roll off. Even the Kef CI200RR starts to have a lot of roll off after 45 degrees. So when if I set it for 45 degrees for the front right seat how does it look for the middle seats or the front left, or the second row?

The new Triad rotating Silver speaker will solve a lot of problems but there are many ompanies that make angled speakers which angle 30 degrees or more and would be good for this type of application.

In a nutshell the shorter the ceiling the more immportant an angled speaker will be. Atmos is tough in most home to do well with tandard 8 foot ceilings. For one row of seating it can work well with angled speakers and toeing them in a little.
Post 12 made on Friday January 12, 2018 at 20:20
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Got tracking number today for four new in ceilings and another amp from Pro Audio Technology (Professional Home Cinema). Cant wait to add it to my system! Ugh, wont be here till the 18th!
Post 13 made on Saturday January 13, 2018 at 12:37
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I have done 2 rooms with Atmos. One with Goldenear one with KEF.

The Goldenear was spec'd by a company out of town and we did the install. I have been underwhelmed and pleased with Goldenear. This room sounded good, but it could have been the Marantz Equipment with two JL Subs.

We did the KEF and Spec'd the equipment. It sounded great. Q550 fronts, Q650 Center, 160Q's for side rears and in-ceiling, two D110 JL Subs, Marantz 6012. This system outperformed the Golden ear system, and I am sure the cost was less. The dispersion for the KEF speakers was magical....really outstanding.
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Post 14 made on Saturday January 13, 2018 at 18:48
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On January 12, 2018 at 20:20, Ranger Home said...
Got tracking number today for four new in ceilings and another amp from Pro Audio Technology (Professional Home Cinema). Cant wait to add it to my system! Ugh, wont be here till the 18th!

What did you end up ordering?
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Post 15 made on Saturday January 13, 2018 at 22:01
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On January 13, 2018 at 12:37, vwpower44 said...
I have done 2 rooms with Atmos. One with Goldenear one with KEF.

The Goldenear was spec'd by a company out of town and we did the install. I have been underwhelmed and pleased with Goldenear. This room sounded good, but it could have been the Marantz Equipment with two JL Subs.

We did the KEF and Spec'd the equipment. It sounded great. Q550 fronts, Q650 Center, 160Q's for side rears and in-ceiling, two D110 JL Subs, Marantz 6012. This system outperformed the Golden ear system, and I am sure the cost was less. The dispersion for the KEF speakers was magical....really outstanding.

I have Q900s, Q600c, and Q300s for my system. I haven't set anything up in the new house yet and it will be challenging with the layout of my basement. I do want to get some KEF in ceilings though to create a Atmos setup whenever I do get around to building the theater.
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