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BlueTooth Turntable connection?
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OP | Post 16 made on Saturday December 23, 2017 at 18:43
Ernie Gilman
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On December 23, 2017 at 15:38, Fins said...
I did answer the question. You just didn’t like what the answer is.

No, highfigh has come closest, I think. You were not even in the ballpark.

What he said still did not DIRECTLY address

On December 23, 2017 at 10:04, highfigh said...
The USB output will communicate with a computer but the stream is subject to the codec chosen by the manufacturer- if it's not compatible with the input (AAC vs WMP, as an example), you get bupkis.

...and the question now devolves to the USB output being able to be transmitted by a Bluetooth transmitter. I have a Bluetooth headphone that's worth trying out this way.
You might want to look deeper into Audacity and some of the other programs- I thought at least one had RIAA equalization

No, because the idea is to connect it and have it work, not have to run it to a computer and process it before it can be recorded for playback later.

Why use USB? It adds processing to the signal and it adds complexity to the system. If you had a signal that came from a phono preamp, you have many more options.

Sigh. The turntable HAS USB. It HAS USB. Might I add that there's A USB OUTPUT? Did I forget to mention that it's got an output that's USB.

And then there's the fact that the turntable won't fit anywhere in the system cabinetry, so it must be at a distance. I'm not going to go into the fact that the floor is a slab and the second floor has a room, as well as the other details of the room that make BlueTooth a good choice.

How much distance between the TT and the rest of the system? BT is not without its own problems. Is there a way to use a USB extension?

About 15 feet. No. If I could use an extension I would not be asking about a wireless solution. Of course, there's also the fact that I thought you guys could help me know more about Bluetooth, but there's pretty much just been "what about" changes of subject here.
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Post 17 made on Saturday December 23, 2017 at 18:44
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Since the turntable has a built-in pre-amp, why not use the RCA outputs in connection with an audio RF transmitter/receiver setup?
Post 18 made on Saturday December 23, 2017 at 18:44
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On December 23, 2017 at 15:53, Ernie Gilman said...
You told me how to use the USB output of a turntable that has one, to get the audio to a piece of audio equipment?

You didn't even tell me it wasn't possible, which is a possibility. THAT would have been an answer. You changed the subject. Changing the subject is not answering the question except in the magical mystical world of politics.

You’re right, I made the mistake assuming that you didn’t have to have your hand held.
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Post 19 made on Saturday December 23, 2017 at 20:53
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On December 23, 2017 at 18:43, Ernie Gilman said...
No, highfigh has come closest, I think. You were not even in the ballpark.

What he said still did not DIRECTLY address

...and the question now devolves to the USB output being able to be transmitted by a Bluetooth transmitter. I have a Bluetooth headphone that's worth trying out this way.
No, because the idea is to connect it and have it work, not have to run it to a computer and process it before it can be recorded for playback later.

Sigh. The turntable HAS USB. It HAS USB. Might I add that there's A USB OUTPUT? Did I forget to mention that it's got an output that's USB.

And then there's the fact that the turntable won't fit anywhere in the system cabinetry, so it must be at a distance. I'm not going to go into the fact that the floor is a slab and the second floor has a room, as well as the other details of the room that make BlueTooth a good choice.

About 15 feet. No. If I could use an extension I would not be asking about a wireless solution. Of course, there's also the fact that I thought you guys could help me know more about Bluetooth, but there's pretty much just been "what about" changes of subject here.

The fact that it HAS USB doesn't mean it's A) possible, or B) a good choice. You're trying to make something work that doesn't work in the way you want- I have yet to see a BT transmitter that takes its input from a USB output.

You'll have to design something to make this work- I'm fairly sure it doesn't exist and it won't until you or someone makes it or somehow, there's a sudden large demand for it.

You don't need to repeat the fact that it has a USB output- the problem is that you can't seem to admit that this turntable was a bad choice and you won't stop trying to find a solution until the Sun finally burns itself out.

WRT "I'm not going to go into the fact that the floor is a slab and the second floor has a room, as well as the other details of the room that make BlueTooth a good choice."- well, I guess you can't say you didn't succeed in that one. Also, if you want to learn about BT, google it! Just ask the question in the search bar! Go to a library or grab a magazine but don't bitch at us for not telling you everything you need to know.

I have heard that Henry Ford said "I don't need people who know everything, I need people who can find the answer to any question". Being able to find information without taking the easy route is a good way to be indispensable.

However, you might look into these if the turntable location has an ethernet port nearby and it goes to a head end that also feeds the AV system.

[Link: amazon.com]

Last edited by highfigh on December 23, 2017 21:01.
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Post 20 made on Saturday December 23, 2017 at 21:12
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On December 23, 2017 at 15:36, Ernie Gilman said...
Well, first of all, I've never seen a PHONE input on a receiver. After that...

Well, one way is that sometimes, at least, I pay attention to the subject on hand. Recently I made some money by listening to a client who wanted to talk about things other than what was needed at the moment. He went off on a tangent and we didn't get anything done, but I was on the clock. You guys have done this repeatedly here.

Hell, of course I know how to do it from the RCA jacks using a phono preamp and an RF system like those used to wirelessly get rear channel info to the rear channels. For what it's worth I know how to do this with a moving coil cartridge, a moving magnet cartridge, a ceramic cartridge, a crystal cartridge, a variable reluctance cartridge, steel needles and even cactus needles. But stick to the subject: I'm asking about a way using USB.

Do I have to insult people to get an answer? Okay: I'm guessing you guys are f*cking ignorant of what is needed but don't want to admit it.

OMFG! Look a the USB input on the Denon AVR you mentioned in the other thread (AVR-X3400H)- IT'S MADE FOR CONNECTING A MEMORY DEVICE, WHICH INCLUDES PHONES! It's right there, on the front, next to the HDMI input that corresponds to AUX 1.

Have you ever done any training on these things, live or on the CI Portal?

So, an RF transmitter will work with a Moving Coil cartridge that usually has output voltage of ~.5mV? Really? I'd like to see/hear that work and NOT hear an ocean of noise.

So, your last comment must make you willing to admit that you're f*cking ignorant of what's needed, eh?

When you ask people for help, it's usually a good policy to not piss on them when you don't like their answers.
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OP | Post 21 made on Saturday December 23, 2017 at 22:29
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The highlighted portion below is a sufficient and complete answer. Not the first part; that's just commentary. The ENTIRE answer is the second sentence.
highfigh wrote:
The fact that it HAS USB doesn't mean it's A) possible, or B) a good choice. You're trying to make something work that doesn't work in the way you want- I have yet to see a BT transmitter that takes its input from a USB output.

If you guys had stuck to the subject as this answer did, we'd have been done several hours ago.

Thanks.
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