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Alarm guys that install security with monitoring - what insurance provider do you use
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Post 1 made on Wednesday December 6, 2017 at 09:36
andrewinboulder
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Dealing with Bolton and it's annoying.

Looking for someone that's better.
Post 2 made on Wednesday December 6, 2017 at 11:00
IRkiller
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On December 6, 2017 at 09:36, andrewinboulder said...
Dealing with Bolton and it's annoying.

Looking for someone that's better.

We use IPSF. I think they're outta KC.
www.ipfs.com
how in the hell does ernie make money?
Post 3 made on Wednesday December 6, 2017 at 13:30
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This is our most challenging insurance. Must have errors and omissions. Since they charge on gross revenue, we keep our security sales separate from AV. We use a broker in Raleigh called High Smith and associates.

I highly recommend using KIRSCHENBAUM & KIRSCHENBAUM out of NY for all your contracts. Alarm, CCTV, service, etc. pay the fee and start right away if you are not using a good contract now!!!!!

Also, never install a system for local use only. We won't touch a system that is not monitored.

Good luck!
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday December 6, 2017 at 15:42
andrewinboulder
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On December 6, 2017 at 13:30, Mr. Brad said...
This is our most challenging insurance. Must have errors and omissions. Since they charge on gross revenue, we keep our security sales separate from AV. We use a broker in Raleigh called High Smith and associates.

I highly recommend using KIRSCHENBAUM & KIRSCHENBAUM out of NY for all your contracts. Alarm, CCTV, service, etc. pay the fee and start right away if you are not using a good contract now!!!!!

Also, never install a system for local use only. We won't touch a system that is not monitored.

Good luck!

Thanks for the info. When you say you keep your security sales separate, are you saying you have a separate legal entity? Or just a different company DBA your normal company?

I've just been using 2Gig gear with GC3 panels and Alarm.com - I use a 2Gig module if I need hard wired zones. Obviously I'm not doing a bunch of integration at this point. Was looking at doing DSC for systems that need to integrate with C4, although it's my understanding that Alarm.com is working on integration...

By the way, who do you guys use for monitoring. Right now I'm with Rapid Response and they seem to be good.
Post 5 made on Thursday December 7, 2017 at 16:40
juliejacobson
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Yes, you should keep security biz separate for both insurance as well as accounting purposes (RMR).

I second Kirschenbaum.
https://www.kirschenbaumesq.com/

Go here to find any contract you might need, as well as legal issues and articles.
[Link: kirschenbaumesq.com]

You most likely will find recommendations for insurance companies. Also, your central station should have good recommendations for you.

Some great articles in there - answering questions from the industry, talking about legal issues of the day. I subscribe to his newsletter, which often has some great tidbits. YOu can subscribe here:
[Link: kirschenbaumesq.com]
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Post 6 made on Thursday December 7, 2017 at 19:54
Mr. Brad
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On December 6, 2017 at 15:42, andrewinboulder said...
Thanks for the info. When you say you keep your security sales separate, are you saying you have a separate legal entity? Or just a different company DBA your normal company?

I've just been using 2Gig gear with GC3 panels and Alarm.com - I use a 2Gig module if I need hard wired zones. Obviously I'm not doing a bunch of integration at this point. Was looking at doing DSC for systems that need to integrate with C4, although it's my understanding that Alarm.com is working on integration...

By the way, who do you guys use for monitoring. Right now I'm with Rapid Response and they seem to be good.

We categorize the jobs so we can run sales reports for the auditors. Not two different companies.

Security Central here in NC.
Post 7 made on Monday December 11, 2017 at 05:12
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SentryNet for me.


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