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Older Sony AVR - I'm stumped
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Post 1 made on Thursday November 30, 2017 at 23:41
davey28
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Model STR-DH500. Customer has an old Sony DVD/VHS combo. Component out is the best quality. I ran the component video from the DVD to the AVR and used digital coax for audio. I get sound but no picture. I RTFM of this receiver over and over and just cant grasp how to assign component as the video.

If I run the component direct to the TV I get video.

Can any of you Sony guys give me a clue please?

Yeah, I know, the customer should upgrade the DVD player but they have loads of VHS tapes.

TIA

Dave
Post 2 made on Thursday November 30, 2017 at 23:52
Ernie Gilman
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Let me guess that the component out is 480p, which the TV can display but which the AVR recognizes as no video at all.

I ran into a similar thing with a Philips DVD/VCR once. We had to rout DVD video differently from VCR video. RTFM and/or tell us the model of the DVD/VCR. When something squirrely is going on, often ALL model numbers matter.
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OP | Post 3 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 00:19
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Thanks Ernie but let me add to the mystery. I couldn't get a picture with composite.

Somehow the AVR needs to be assigned the correct video input but the manual is a joke.
Post 4 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 01:12
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You are not using HDMI out to TV, and no upconversion? What is going to the television from the AV receiver?
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Post 5 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 01:36
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Most likely component video is only output via component, not HDMI. That means you need to connect component out to TV and change sources on TV to that to see the video.
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Post 6 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 01:40
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Looks like one of those transitional aged AVRs when HDMI was just coming out. Has HDMI switching but no upconversion. Dead giveaway is usually when you see “Dolby Digital Plus” as opposed to Dolby HD. Recommend either replacing the AVR with newer model, running component cables to the TV although I doubt your VHS combo will output VCR through Component, or get a Sony RDRVX555 (535). It has an HDMI output that outputs both VCR and DVD. Easier said than done on that one
OP | Post 7 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 02:14
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I am using HDMI out from the AVR to the display Tom. The SAT input connected to HDMI 2 works perfect.
OP | Post 8 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 02:20
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Thanks Freddy, looks like it's time to tell the client it's time to convert his VHS collection to digital.

On December 1, 2017 at 01:40, FreddyFreeloader said...
Looks like one of those transitional aged AVRs when HDMI was just coming out. Has HDMI switching but no upconversion. Dead giveaway is usually when you see “Dolby Digital Plus” as opposed to Dolby HD. Recommend either replacing the AVR with newer model, running component cables to the TV although I doubt your VHS combo will output VCR through Component, or get a Sony RDRVX555 (535). It has an HDMI output that outputs both VCR and DVD. Easier said than done on that one
Post 9 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 05:33
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Still, what's the model of the DVD/VCR combo? Or is it worth pursuing any further?
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Post 10 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 15:37
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A component video feed to the monitor takes care of it.

I did a composite video feed to a Vizio TV for a client yesterday from his Sony VCR. Sometimes gotta just do it!
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OP | Post 11 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 21:03
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On December 1, 2017 at 05:33, Ernie Gilman said...
Still, what's the model of the DVD/VCR combo? Or is it worth pursuing any further?

For the record Ernie, it's a Sony SLVD300P
Post 12 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 21:28
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Does the AVR have component out? You could see if the component in goes out the component. You could also check for a manual to the Sony to see if it upconverts. It could have a problem. On the integras that were known for the bad hdmi chips, stopping upconverting was one of the symptoms of a chip going bad.
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OP | Post 13 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 23:31
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On December 1, 2017 at 21:28, Fins said...
Does the AVR have component out? You could see if the component in goes out the component. You could also check for a manual to the Sony to see if it upconverts. It could have a problem. On the integras that were known for the bad hdmi chips, stopping upconverting was one of the symptoms of a chip going bad.

Component and composite outs Fins. Are you suggesting run component to the display from the AVR? The customer only has SAT and this DVD combo as sources which the AVR can handle. I could run component for everything. All digital audio to the AVR. Your thoughts.

TIA
Post 14 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 23:32
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The DH500 was a budget receiver that didn't do upconversion.

So, like others said, if you want to use a component in, the signal goes out the component out. Alternatively, just pass the component straight to the TV and send the audio to the receiver.

If you can't easily get component to the TV you can use a component->HDMI converter as a last resort.
Post 15 made on Friday December 1, 2017 at 23:48
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On December 1, 2017 at 21:28, Fins said...
Does the AVR have component out? You could see if the component in goes out the component. You could also check for a manual to the Sony to see if it upconverts. It could have a problem.

It does not upconvert. That is an entry level Sony AVR from 9+ years ago. I think it was $249 or less when it was new. It is a crappy little box meant to be sold at Walmart or Best buy on the end cap - right next to the bubblegum & energy drinks.
Literally in testing, the thing could not put out more than 35watts per channel, when trying to drive all channels at once. The whole thing only weighs 16 pounds and is mostly empty space inside the chassis. It has 'no' features.
The last one I worked on a few years ago, even the discrete IR codes were wonky. Had to use that old 'Sony system off' discrete IR code for OFF.


Dav,
Hope you explained well your per hour rate $. And gave him a ballpark of how many hours it will take. The typical customer like this, will have a heart attack seeing a labor bill higher than all his equipment is worth. Unless he understands that now and wants to get a little better equipment. But he is still hanging onto VHS, so probably not.
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