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Post 16 made on Saturday November 18, 2017 at 19:35
roddymcg
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On November 18, 2017 at 19:11, highfigh said...
I have been a member for years- the differences between amps is often hard to hear when they're run at far less than balls to the wall. That said, I know my Parasound sounds better than the Denon AVR I was using before- that just never did what this amp does, although the P5 preamp made a difference, too. I'm using a Yamaha WXC-50 MusicCast as my preamp and it still sounds great.

As far as calling myself an Audiopile, I don't care about that- I have a good idea of the sound I like and that's what matters. I don't think my AV equipment makes me a he-man, Dalai Lama or anything else. In fact, I'm sick of the BS in this industry.

Interesting that you linked to this article when Triad speakers were mentioned as a good choice since the writer was one of the mucky-mucks at Triad.

As long as the speakers don't present a load to the amp that makes it puke, most amplifiers will be fine. If it can weld, even better.

When the client is in their favorite chair and they have a smile on their face listening to their system then they have made the right decision. Whether this be an AVR with in-ceiling speakers, a 6 figure system, or a 7 figure system.

Paul and I have mutual friends in the industry and have become Facebook friends. I read his stuff and chat with him all the time there. Also being a big Triad fan and dealer since the early 2000's. I've learned a lot from him and share this knowledge when on a project.
When good enough is not good enough.
Post 17 made on Sunday November 19, 2017 at 09:02
highfigh
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On November 18, 2017 at 19:35, roddymcg said...
When the client is in their favorite chair and they have a smile on their face listening to their system then they have made the right decision. Whether this be an AVR with in-ceiling speakers, a 6 figure system, or a 7 figure system.

Paul and I have mutual friends in the industry and have become Facebook friends. I read his stuff and chat with him all the time there. Also being a big Triad fan and dealer since the early 2000's. I've learned a lot from him and share this knowledge when on a project.

Exactly! When I did car audio, I would have people come in with cheap crap, mid-range and high end equipment and my goal, which I pounded into the heads of the guys who worked for me, was to make the client say "WOW!" when they saw and heard what we had done. Even if it was something as menial as vacuuming the car when there had been a mountain of cigarette ashes and butts under the ashtray (this was a real problem for me, as a non-smoker and if I had to lay on the floor during the job, it pissed me off when I ended up stinking like the car). The way I reached the goal was to make sure the equipment operated in its happy place, meaning I didn't try to make it do things that were impossible. It might not be as loud as they wanted, but I tried to make sure it always sounded really good, or great. Loud is loud, good sound is different.

I was at the local Guitar Center years ago and as I talked with a couple of friends who worked there, a guy moved closer and at one point, asked if I had worked at a particular car audio shop and I remembered him- he had an early-'80s Camaro, no budget and cheap equipment. That was a great example of the reality check of "You don't have a lot of power- the specs are from the marketing department" and when it was done, his Majestic power amp with a 5A fuse (was rated at 200W in the mid-'90s) and cheap speakers were part of a nicely balanced system and he raved about it to my friends.

It's about the end experience, not the names on the equipment. It's not always easy to get people to give up that idea.

I was looking at Triad speakers for a project and when I saw the drivers they use, I was very interested and called their tech support department- I have been a fan of Peerless/Vifa drivers for a long time and have built several speakers with them, including the ones I use now. Unfortunately, the Triad I was considering wouldn';t fit because of the framing, but if I have any say on future projects, I want to use them.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 18 made on Sunday November 19, 2017 at 09:12
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On November 19, 2017 at 09:02, highfigh said...
Exactly! When I did car audio, I would have people come in with cheap crap, mid-range and high end equipment and my goal, which I pounded into the heads of the guys who worked for me, was to make the client say "WOW!" when they saw and heard what we had done. Even if it was something as menial as vacuuming the car when there had been a mountain of cigarette ashes and butts under the ashtray (this was a real problem for me, as a non-smoker and if I had to lay on the floor during the job, it pissed me off when I ended up stinking like the car). The way I reached the goal was to make sure the equipment operated in its happy place, meaning I didn't try to make it do things that were impossible. It might not be as loud as they wanted, but I tried to make sure it always sounded really good, or great. Loud is loud, good sound is different.

I was at the local Guitar Center years ago and as I talked with a couple of friends who worked there, a guy moved closer and at one point, asked if I had worked at a particular car audio shop and I remembered him- he had an early-'80s Camaro, no budget and cheap equipment. That was a great example of the reality check of "You don't have a lot of power- the specs are from the marketing department" and when it was done, his Majestic power amp with a 5A fuse (was rated at 200W in the mid-'90s) and cheap speakers were part of a nicely balanced system and he raved about it to my friends.

It's about the end experience, not the names on the equipment. It's not always easy to get people to give up that idea.

I was looking at Triad speakers for a project and when I saw the drivers they use, I was very interested and called their tech support department- I have been a fan of Peerless/Vifa drivers for a long time and have built several speakers with them, including the ones I use now. Unfortunately, the Triad I was considering wouldn';t fit because of the framing, but if I have any say on future projects, I want to use them.

Go Triad anyway. They will custom make the speaker to fit your framing!
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