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Topic: | What's your prefferanxe for direct burial cat6? This thread has 17 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 11:13 |
Craig Aguiar-Winter Senior Member |
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I have conduit run to a client's pool cabana. The total cable run will be about 100ft, with about 60ft of that run in conduit. The intent is to put an access point out there, and a TV which will have the associated equipment rack mounted in the basement of the house.
My supplier has direct burial cat6, direct burial flooded cat6, or direct burial foil shielded cat6.
I believe I recall reading in the AP manual that shielded cable is recommended, but in a location that's considered wet, I wonder if the flooded cable would be a better choice?
In your opinion, which type is the best cable to use?
Thanks.
Craig
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Post 2 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 12:02 |
kgossen Super Member |
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What's your prefferanxe for direct burial cat6
WTF?
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Post 3 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 13:19 |
Brad Humphrey Super Member |
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The flooded cable is usually used where the cable gets buried directly. So if/when it gets nicked, it is self sealing. Your cable is in conduit, so just burial rated is fine.
Shielded cable helps with EMI, like near by lighting strikes. I would also run extra cables while you are at it.
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OP | Post 4 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 13:35 |
Craig Aguiar-Winter Senior Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 13:19, Brad Humphrey said...
The flooded cable is usually used where the cable gets buried directly. So if/when it gets nicked, it is self sealing. Your cable is in conduit, so just burial rated is fine.
Shielded cable helps with EMI, like near by lighting strikes. I would also run extra cables while you are at it. Thanks Brad. I will be running a couple of spares for sure. Since my prefferanxe is to follow manufacturer recommendation, I was leaning toward the shielded as well but just wasn't sure as I know pretty much all conduits get water in them eventually, and sometimes installers know better. Haha. Thanks for the info. Craig.
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Post 5 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 14:14 |
SB Smarthomes Super Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 13:35, Craig Aguiar-Winter said...
Since my prefferanxe is to follow manufacturer recommendation... You going to make kgossen's head explode :)
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Post 6 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 14:33 |
3PedalMINI Loyal Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 12:02, kgossen said...
What's your prefferanxe for direct burial cat6
WTF? Do you provide anything useful on any of our forums? or are you just a troll in your moms basement? Clearly he used his phone to type this.
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Post 7 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 15:14 |
jrainey Active Member |
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I have had nightmares in out buildings with running copper....seems like any local storm takes out ports. My last couple of projects I have run fiber from switch to switch and they have been great.
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Post 8 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 15:45 |
My opinion any decent direct burial rates cable is flooded. Some have a waterproof tape layer. Some have both.
That is probably the difference at your vendor. One uses tape ones gel filled.
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Post 9 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 16:57 |
ericspencer Active Member |
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Stick with a flooded cable. In a flooded cable gel fils all of the space not occupied by the conductors, with the "dry" burial cables they use water absorbent fillers or powders that absorb the moisture once it gets into the cable. Flooded cables keep water out ... dry types deal with water once it makes its way into the cable.
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Post 10 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 17:04 |
3PedalMINI Loyal Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 15:14, jrainey said...
I have had nightmares in out buildings with running copper....seems like any local storm takes out ports. My last couple of projects I have run fiber from switch to switch and they have been great. +1 The cost of fiber has plummeted, switch to switch wouldn’t be bad at all. It’s easy if you haven’t done it before. You can order pre terminated cable if your not certified on terminating!
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Post 11 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 17:49 |
para19 Long Time Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 15:14, jrainey said...
I have had nightmares in out buildings with running copper....seems like any local storm takes out ports. My last couple of projects I have run fiber from switch to switch and they have been great. +1
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OP | Post 12 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 19:19 |
Craig Aguiar-Winter Senior Member |
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I never thought about using fibre. That's worth a look too.
Craig.
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Post 13 made on Thursday November 9, 2017 at 20:58 |
Hasbeen Loyal Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 12:02, kgossen said...
What's your prefferanxe for direct burial cat6
WTF? By the time Ernie gets done correcting our grammar and this tool gets done with his new found spell check abilities. We're going to be awesome!
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Post 14 made on Friday November 10, 2017 at 08:15 |
jrainey Active Member |
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On November 9, 2017 at 17:04, 3PedalMINI said...
+1
The cost of fiber has plummeted, switch to switch wouldn’t be bad at all. It’s easy if you haven’t done it before. You can order pre terminated cable if your not certified on terminating! With the new "easy peel" fiber and "quick" style pre-polished ends this should be a skill that is right in all of our wheelhouse. We all need to get real on running fiber IMHO.
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Post 15 made on Friday November 10, 2017 at 09:06 |
Dave in Balto Super Member |
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The foil in the shielded cable also has a drain, the drain is supposed to be connected on one side, and can be grounded at the other to help with things like blown out ports.
I want to say that flooded is the best, but make sure to bring some alcohol swabs to clean off the goo. Also, don't run it inside anymore than you have to. I've seen it ooze down walls.
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