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Post 1 made on Saturday October 28, 2017 at 12:14
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I have a client/friend that is a gadget and home automation freak. His home is like a museum to DIY automation. But recently I got him to convert his dedicated theater to Elan control. He wants to add an outdoor camera to his elan system. Any suggestions on a camera?

he has 3 or 4 motion sensor cameras with flash on his driveway. I was at his house a couple nights ago and when I pulled in, it looked like a Rave with all the strobes flashing. He gets notices on his phone when these are triggered, but they only send him still shots. He wants to be able to see live video if he isn’t home and his drive sensors are triggered.
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Post 2 made on Saturday October 28, 2017 at 13:36
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Your friend should stay home, keep the shades shut and cover smoke detectors with foil, burn his trash and probably grow his own food, not use a smart phone and drive a pre computer outfitted vehicle if he must leave his compound.

What's the driveway made of making it so special?
Post 3 made on Saturday October 28, 2017 at 14:31
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Yesterday, I did a full network upgrade for a client that got that stupid Ring flood light thingy.
I say stupid but once I installed APs around the house, the damn thing looked really nice.
He gets notifications on his phone, can watch live stream and has 2-way audio right from his phone.

If that damn thing works as advertised, I may need to look into this further and see if this is something I can recommend and make some money on, but like I said, we just did the network upgrade yesterday. Time will tell.
Post 4 made on Saturday October 28, 2017 at 14:31
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On October 28, 2017 at 14:31, Mario said...
Yesterday, I did a full network upgrade for a client that got that stupid Ring flood light thingy.
I say stupid but once I installed APs around the house, the damn thing looked really nice.
He gets notifications on his phone, can watch live stream and has 2-way audio right from his phone.

If that damn thing works as advertised, I may need to look into this further and see if this is something I can recommend and make some money on, but like I said, we just did the network upgrade yesterday. Time will tell.

Oh, one more thing. He's already talking about installing 2 more units to cover his patio and backyard pool area.
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday October 28, 2017 at 18:49
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But the ring won’t work with elan. I need something with a standard video format.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

OP | Post 6 made on Saturday October 28, 2017 at 18:57
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On October 28, 2017 at 13:36, thecapnredfish said...
Your friend should stay home, keep the shades shut and cover smoke detectors with foil, burn his trash and probably grow his own food, not use a smart phone and drive a pre computer outfitted vehicle if he must leave his compound.

What's the driveway made of making it so special?

It’s not a paranoia thing (well, maybe just a little, he’s a retired cop). He just likes gadgets. He had some kind of doorbell that would call his cellphone years ago. So now that he has a system that can have a camera integrated, he wants it because he can.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 7 made on Sunday October 29, 2017 at 10:22
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On October 28, 2017 at 14:31, Mario said...
Yesterday, I did a full network upgrade for a client that got that stupid Ring flood light thingy.
I say stupid but once I installed APs around the house, the damn thing looked really nice.
He gets notifications on his phone, can watch live stream and has 2-way audio right from his phone.

If that damn thing works as advertised, I may need to look into this further and see if this is something I can recommend and make some money on, but like I said, we just did the network upgrade yesterday. Time will tell.

Kevin sent me one and I love it! Hoping eventually to be able to integrate it more with C4 but the events driver is a start
OP | Post 8 made on Sunday October 29, 2017 at 19:30
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On October 29, 2017 at 10:22, faster48 said...
Kevin sent me one and I love it! Hoping eventually to be able to integrate it more with C4 but the events driver is a start

It’s frustrating that a $200 retail product is something that you love and comparable products in our industry at 2x, 3x, and 10x the price don’t work as well.
Civil War reenactment is LARPing for people with no imagination.

Post 9 made on Sunday October 29, 2017 at 20:05
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sad but true
Post 10 made on Sunday October 29, 2017 at 21:45
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On October 29, 2017 at 10:22, faster48 said...
Kevin sent me one and I love it! Hoping eventually to be able to integrate it more with C4 but the events driver is a start

Dude, that freaked me out.
Client's name is Kevin. I was like "how the hell does he know Kevin, and why is Kevin sending him crap"?!
Then I realized that there might be another Kevin out there; like BWD :-)
Post 11 made on Sunday October 29, 2017 at 22:36
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On October 29, 2017 at 19:30, Fins said...
It’s frustrating that a $200 retail product is something that you love and comparable products in our industry at 2x, 3x, and 10x the price don’t work as well.

The line is getting wider and wider between our products and consumer products. That ring floodlight camera just plain works and is beyond frustrating.

I just don’t understand our industry sometimes....sigh
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Post 12 made on Sunday October 29, 2017 at 23:37
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On October 29, 2017 at 22:36, 3PedalMINI said...
The line is getting wider and wider between our products and consumer products. That ring floodlight camera just plain works and is beyond frustrating.

That's true and an interesting observation when "convergence" has supposedly been where we're going.
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Post 13 made on Monday October 30, 2017 at 02:46
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On October 29, 2017 at 10:22, faster48 said...
Kevin sent me one and I love it! Hoping eventually to be able to integrate it more with C4 but the events driver is a start

Brady, what do you use the events driver in C4 for?
Since we can't see video on TS, and client gets instant notification on phone, etc. and Ring has floodlights built-in (thus negating needing to turn on outside lights based on event notification), I'm struggling to see what notifications can be used.

The client that I just did network upgrade for is talking about upgrading house to C4. I would love to grease the wheels by telling him how smart his Ring purchase was and how he can now integrate Ring into C4, but not sure for what?
Post 14 made on Monday October 30, 2017 at 09:22
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On October 28, 2017 at 14:31, Mario said...
Yesterday, I did a full network upgrade for a client that got that stupid Ring flood light thingy.
I say stupid but once I installed APs around the house, the damn thing looked really nice.
He gets notifications on his phone, can watch live stream and has 2-way audio right from his phone.

If that damn thing works as advertised, I may need to look into this further and see if this is something I can recommend and make some money on, but like I said, we just did the network upgrade yesterday. Time will tell.

I have been keeping my eye on the Floodlight and their Spotlight- one version comes with a power cord, so it could be used as a temporary way to see what's happening and these two can be viewed in real time, unlike the doorbells (that may have changed since I looked at the original models).

Keep us updated on how they work, OK?
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Post 15 made on Monday October 30, 2017 at 09:47
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On October 30, 2017 at 02:46, Mario said...
Brady, what do you use the events driver in C4 for?
Since we can't see video on TS, and client gets instant notification on phone, etc. and Ring has floodlights built-in (thus negating needing to turn on outside lights based on event notification), I'm struggling to see what notifications can be used.

The client that I just did network upgrade for is talking about upgrading house to C4. I would love to grease the wheels by telling him how smart his Ring purchase was and how he can now integrate Ring into C4, but not sure for what?

Simply you can trigger lights to come on (I know it’s a floodlight) one client has it in an area of his yard that is dark that has an entrance to his house. He knows that no one is walking by except to go into his house. I have it programmed that when the “line” is tripped to turn on that rooms lights.

Another thing for the ring doorbell is when the button is pressed it kicks the TVs over to the porch cameras, rings the whole house music and flashes the back patio light!
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
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