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Noise Cancelling Headphones?
This thread has 18 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 19.
Post 16 made on Thursday October 26, 2017 at 10:15
rmalbers
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On October 26, 2017 at 10:10, tomciara said...
Right, so after about 5 minutes, you are deaf, and ALL noise from that point forward is inaudible...

😄

It's hard to describe but with my Sony's, on a plane with it turned off you hear the regular engine noise, with them on the sound changes to kind of like a low volume, low frequency rumble type thing. The effect (or whatever) definitely works on a plane, and very well. My big problem is remembering to take them, it's the only time I use them.
Post 17 made on Thursday October 26, 2017 at 11:22
Mario
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On October 26, 2017 at 08:28, Mr. Brad said...
Not sure I understand or agree completely. Without doing any research, my thought is that if the two sound waves cancel each-other out, your are getting less than 90db. If you were to get 90db of silence, wouldn't it just be pressure?

Good discussion. I'm sure someone will find a thesis for us to review:)

I don't understand what your confusion is.

Let me explain it a different way.
Cold water out of your fauces is 50°
You want 100°
You add equal volume of 150° water and end result is 100°
You're not exposed to 150° temperatures, just the 100° you asked for.
Post 18 made on Thursday October 26, 2017 at 13:25
Knightwing
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On October 26, 2017 at 10:10, tomciara said...
Right, so after about 5 minutes, you are deaf, and ALL noise from that point forward is inaudible...

😄

Point taken... I can still hear!
Post 19 made on Thursday October 26, 2017 at 16:13
Ernie Gilman
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On October 26, 2017 at 11:22, Mario said...
I don't understand what your confusion is.

Let me explain it a different way.
Cold water out of your fauces is 50°
You want 100°
You add equal volume of 150° water and end result is 100°
You're not exposed to 150° temperatures, just the 100° you asked for.

He might be thinking of the analog of this, which would be that there's a flaw in the piping and there's a place where you're exposed to 150° water.

Nope. The volume of air into which the opposing sound comes is so small that there is, in effect, no place where the opposing sound is "by itself," so you don't hear it. You only hear the result of it being mixed with the original sound.

To have such an effect, you'd have to be doing this in an enclosure where the wavelength of a frequency is an appreciable fraction of the room size. Let's say the top frequency here is 100 Hz; sound travels at about 1000 feet per second, so the wavelength of 100 Hz is about ten feet. Wavelength of 1 kHz is about a foot.

The space inside your headphone/pinna/earhole complex might be as long as an inch, which is the wavelength of about 12 kHz. So.... you see how the sounds won't ever be separate in that enclosed space?
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
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