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Comprehensive review/comparison of programmable physical remotes?
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Post 16 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 11:18
tomciara
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Maybe you could create a phantom device, and put about 30 random commands in a row to simulate a long delay.

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Post 17 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 12:01
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On October 15, 2017 at 11:18, tomciara said...
Maybe you could create a phantom device, and put about 30 random commands in a row to simulate a long delay.

I didn't think of that. I could have sent out a fujitsu plasma command 30 times :).

Harmony - maybe for bedrooms, not for anything else, except for the dog to chew on.
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Post 18 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 12:17
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I haven't touched a Harmony in many, many years. As tomciara suggests I would create a nonsense device and send it commands in order to create a delay. If the Harmony is really smart and multitasks, you'll need to use the same emitter port for the nonsense device as is used for the device that needs the delay.

In order to help this cause, you could "learn" some special IR codes that are deliberately concocted to be long duration.

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I assume that Harmony does not support conditionals. If this is the case and you understand the "State Machine" concept, you might be able to create a matrix of identical looking Home pages that include minimum delays appropriate for the current "state" of each device. This would not be a perfect scheme if something gets out of sync, but you could have a "System Off" button that would reset the devices and the state machine.

I would not want to maintain this sort of beast, but it would be a way of satisfying the customer's demand of being able to tinker with favorite stations and such. Good luck to everyone if the state machine is broken by the tinkering.
Post 19 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 12:28
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On October 15, 2017 at 12:17, buzz said...
I haven't touched a Harmony in many, many years. As tomciara suggests I would create a nonsense device and send it commands in order to create a delay. If the Harmony is really smart and multitasks, you'll need to use the same emitter port for the nonsense device as is used for the device that needs the delay.

In order to help this cause, you could "learn" some special IR codes that are deliberately concocted to be long duration.

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I assume that Harmony does not support conditionals. If this is the case and you understand the "State Machine" concept, you might be able to create a matrix of identical looking Home pages that include minimum delays appropriate for the current "state" of each device. This would not be a perfect scheme if something gets out of sync, but you could have a "System Off" button that would reset the devices and the state machine.

The Harmony seems to be pretty rock solid in terms of Activity ON/Zone OFF commands. This probably has to do with the fact that we use pro level TV's/AVR's etc with ON|OFF commands and discreet input commands. They have a FIX IT feature for dealing with this thats easy to use but i havent had the need to use it yet.

The only problem i found with it when trying to use it for a single zone system was the inability to add a delay to the activity macro. I think i discovered the bug and fix for this though. I wont know until i try it with a clients remote.

I would not want to maintain this sort of beast, but it would be a way of satisfying the customer's demand of being able to tinker with favorite stations and such. Good luck to everyone if the state machine is broken by the tinkering.
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Post 20 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 12:45
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On October 15, 2017 at 08:34, 3PedalMINI said...
Yes, some basic things. Not a single one of my clients make use of those features though.

Out of curiousity, do you inform them about When>>Then ?
OP | Post 21 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 14:54
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I found a "Showstopper" with Harmony Pro/Elite that I have confirmed with tech support and reported back to them.

For IP controlled devices, if their "WIFi scanner" cannot see the device, you are SOL.

There is no way to manually enter the IP address to add a device to the configuration (even if you have static IP or reserved IP so Harmony doesn't have to deal with floating addresses.)
Post 22 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 15:50
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On October 15, 2017 at 12:45, tweeterguy said...
Out of curiousity, do you inform them about When>>Then ?

Nope. No one EVER asked.
Post 23 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 15:57
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On October 15, 2017 at 03:40, buzz said...
But, does C4 allow customer tinkering?

Yes. There are options for onscreen adjustments, on the fly advanced lighting changes, etc.

What kind of tinkering are your clients asking for?

In 15 years that I've been in business, only 1 client asked for HAI programming software, which I sold him but he never even picked up.

The only question I am ever asked is the ability for homeover to change passwords on WiFi.

No one ever asked to change macros, favorites, programming, events, schedules, etc.
That might be a function of be doing a great job in understanding customer's needs and delivering on their wishes, or more likely that people are so busy with their lives that they just don't care about small changes (or they email/text me and I get them done remotely in few minutes).
Post 24 made on Sunday October 15, 2017 at 17:33
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On October 15, 2017 at 15:57, Mario said...
Yes. There are options for onscreen adjustments, on the fly advanced lighting changes, etc.

What kind of tinkering are your clients asking for?

In 15 years that I've been in business, only 1 client asked for HAI programming software, which I sold him but he never even picked up.

The only question I am ever asked is the ability for homeover to change passwords on WiFi.

No one ever asked to change macros, favorites, programming, events, schedules, etc.
That might be a function of be doing a great job in understanding customer's needs and delivering on their wishes, or more likely that people are so busy with their lives that they just don't care about small changes (or they email/text me and I get them done remotely in few minutes).

I've had more than a few ask.about the.maming changes themselves in regards to when they add new equipment.
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